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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 04 Mar 2021 19:00 #113086

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Updates to all of the Pro video Apps today -Motion looks the most interesting with a new Auto-Shrink option in text layouts.

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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 04 Mar 2021 19:26 #113087

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The new text scaling feature in Motion looks was if it could be very handy for layouts
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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 05 Mar 2021 00:23 #113091

Already tried the auto shrink. helpful for those lower 3rds that just go a little long and you have to go change the font size. Now it gets even easier! Still wish we could see something more in an update.

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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 05 Mar 2021 01:21 #113092

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Typical Motion update, bug fixes for Compressor which is about all we've had in a long time, FCP bug fixes, yay. I feel I'm getting more and more on the fence about things...

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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 05 Mar 2021 03:16 #113094

An update to Motions particle generator would be good. It's basically still the same as Combustion 3 from about 2004 which it essentially came from. Something approaching Trapcode Particular would be awesome.
Audio implementation in FCPX is still dire. They really backed themselves into a corner with applying the trackless approach to audio and don't seem to have come up with a solid alternative to not having tracks and a mixer. Logic and every other DAW is still using tracks. Why? Because tracks work really well for audio production. I have to agree with Ben. In terms of development for both Motion and FCP, it's all pretty underwhelming. It's basically my long term investment in building a large collection of third party plugins that keeps me using FCP.

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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 05 Mar 2021 07:19 #113095

FCP Team seems to have lost all courage...maybe some big things are planned...but my switch to Resolve has thus far been delightful.

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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 05 Mar 2021 11:51 #113102

Yes, so much time only for basically bug fixes! I can agree with that but… as for Motion and FCP there are a bunch of third party plugins, why should Apple be working on redundancy Filters, Effects and Generators? To be accused of copying them? There’s a huge door for third party developers here.
FCP really needs improvements and I would say dupe detection and a better or rock solid integration for audio with Logic Pro in mind. Logic Pro is mainly for musicians but even though I think it could handle easily an FCP timeline. We don’t need a bloated FCP in the audio section. That’s my approach. I would even go further and would add Logic Pro the ability to load FCP Projects or Libraries. They need to develop a single exchange file, all the Pro apps, Compressor can read an FCP Project…
Motion needs a big jump too, more 3D capabilities and let’s not forget it’s a 50€ host app, most of the third party plugins are pricier than that.

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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 05 Mar 2021 12:22 #113105

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"...why should Apple be working on redundancy Filters, Effects and Generators?"
No one suggested they do that.

Roles based mixer, which they actually have a patent for, has been desperately needed from the beginning to start with.
And round-tripping to Logic won't cut it when I have to mix and master audio while working with my video edits. FCP is the only NLE that forbids you from doing that. They've failed even in legacy FCP with Logic round-trips, they need to give up that ghost and get an actual mixer.

As for 3D capabilities, there's MotionVFX's mO2 (I use it a lot), so are you contradicting yourself with that?

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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 05 Mar 2021 12:28 #113106

When people like Ben are worried about the future of FCP, I'm very worried. Our entire business runs on it, but it's getting to be a hassle.

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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 05 Mar 2021 13:03 #113107

Why do we still need a RED plugin if FCP now supports the footage natively?

I'm going to be using RED footage in a future project so I will still need to download the RED plugin?

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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 05 Mar 2021 14:04 #113110

ebatalha wrote: We don’t need a bloated FCP in the audio section. .

I wouldn't call having basic audio production tools 'bloating'. "Sound is half of the picture" as George Lucas once said and FCPX practically has no audio mixing tools at all apart from stereo master bus meters, the effects controls found in the inspector and the ability to assign audio roles. I think we are way off of bloating and still in the area of bringing FCP up to the standards of every other pro level video editing package. While many film and broadcast editors may be round-tripping to a dedicated sound editor/engineer working with a DAW, many others aren't and will be completing projects purely within FCP itself. I'm generally accepting of FCPX's audio limitations when I'm working with a basic mix of live sound, music and voiceover but it needs more. If we could sidechain a voiceover in to a noise gate assigned to our music track, then audio ducking would be possible for instance. We shouldn't need to be doing this task manually with the range tool and keyframes.

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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 05 Mar 2021 16:11 #113117

It is kind of disappointing that Apple hasn't done more with FCPX and Motion over the years.
FCPX was first released in 2010, I think. That's 11 years ago! Most likely they were working on it a couple of years prior to the first release.
I haven't done anything serious in almost two years. Is the transition glitch fixed at least?

All that said, I still enjoy FCPX far more than Premiere.

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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 05 Mar 2021 16:36 #113120

This is begining to be some kind of contempt for the pro users, they know that we NEED
- Motion roundtrip
- a proper AAF export
- a mixer
- an access to IO for Motion like we had in Motion 4
- … and so many basic things

years go by , nothing comes, is there still a ProApps team ? hopeless...really feel like despise

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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 05 Mar 2021 17:45 #113122

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When FCPX was first released in 2011 there was mention of a "10-year plan." It seems that period is nearing its end.
It's almost as if the changes we're seeing were much like the days of FCP6 to FCP7 (minor improvements).
Perhaps we're nearing the end of FCP as we know it, about to be replaced by "the next generation NLE."
Imagine if they were to anger a whole new generation of users by requiring Apple Silicon to run it. Nah, they wouldn't do anything like that (would they?).

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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 06 Mar 2021 00:14 #113130

Additionally, Why oh why can I not get some simple, long overdue functionality like: Having my workspace save my column layout (why do I always have to 'hide' columns that I never ever use. For example: Stereoscipic, 360, Camera Angle..... If I need these I will unhide them, but no, I must always hide them......Even though I save my layouts in a dedicated workspaces. The friggin' app can't remember my column layouts so the NOTES stays where I like it. WTF? I've posted this simple request 20 times in various venues. Do these things bother anyone else out there? Some have said that the app saves their custom browser layouts yet I have never seen it stick in my settings. So that every time I relaunch FCPx I must re-arrange my columns. It remembers to distribute my browser and timeline and AV monitor across 3 screens but won't remember the damn column layout.

Also, why can't I store the fade characteristic (Ease-In/Ease-Out) without my default dissolve? Is this too much to ask for?
Every time I must re-set those parameters I typically use.

I really love editing with FCPx, after 25 years of Media Composer, but some of these 'little things' are totally annoying. Can I get a witness?

Of course there's more little nits I have to pick, but they never get addressed by the development 'engineers'. Engineers? Really?

And everything mentioned on here today are all viable gripes, reasonable requests IMO after 10 years of this product's life. Why? Why? Why?

Dupe detection......And more to bark about.....when there's so much to love here. Why can't we get married forever?

I'm going bald.

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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 06 Mar 2021 00:18 #113131

And......I would love to purchase Logic to mix with, but I don't do music so it would be just to use as a DAW for video. But no integration to warrant that purchase.

I used to export from Media Composer to mix in Soundtrack Pro. It worked well for me. But after they killed FCS, I had nowhere to go.

I have some great plug-ins from Waves, iZotope and others which I use furiously inside FCPx. But it's hard without having a bus structure to utilize.

Boo hoo, listen to me cry.

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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 06 Mar 2021 15:14 #113143

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Yes, I agree, it does seem the Pro Apps teams are getting less and less done. They're probably being pulled to other macOS and iOS projects more often. Apple needs to wake up, or we all go to Resolve. If I ever make that switch, I'll miss many of FCP's great features, but I have to make a living, time is money, and zero pro audio tools for mixing is inexcusable after 11 years (and a patent for it filed for several years now). Unless we get the big, huge, major upgrade some folks are tell me they have faith in this year, I will seriously consider going Resolve full-time as a business decision. I love FCP, but it's growth has been inexcusably slow and lacking the second half of its life.

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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 07 Mar 2021 13:16 #113168

It's so sad! I really feel like they are doing an Aperture here... FCPX was so amazing for for a period but like lots of other people I have had to move myself and my work (a university) over to Resolve. I hope they don't let FCPX die...

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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 07 Mar 2021 15:51 #113178

When the best thing that could ever happen…… happened which is the "retirement" of Randy Ubillos, (paradoxically) I thougt there might be hope... but so little came since.

The worst is that it is probably not negligence but it seems they are happy with this stupid and dull concept of an editing software where "Uncle Henry" is not lost ...

Shouln'd we all go on " FCP STRIKE " until we get :
- the Motion roundtrip and Motion IO capability back,
- an AAF export, (and stop being the laught of the town)
- decent audio pre-mixing,
- a real sequence consolidate,
- a richer browser UI with all the missing browser columns and that we can SAVE as presets
- SOLVING THAT LOSING RENDERS ISSUES ! it's time, how can they live with that ! so stupid and unprofessional
- internal "Resolve like " tracking
- Complete that unusable "Motion Flow" with a serious way of rendering fluid Slowmotions (Avid scourge is doing WAY better)

and that is just the basic mandatory things that we need

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Final Cut Pro updated to 10.5.2, Motion to 5.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.2 08 Mar 2021 17:48 #113211

I have the feeling that this update speeds up the workflow on my new MacPro2019. Everything is even more fluently. Thanks Apple! And thank you to Peter for giving this report!

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