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Duplicate or Copy a Rig or Widget

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23 Oct 2012 21:31 #15526 by Stupid Raisins
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Does anyone know a way to copy or duplicate a rig or widget?
Thanks!
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23 Oct 2012 21:48 #15536 by BenB
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You can't give two controls to the same function.

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23 Oct 2012 21:51 #15538 by Stupid Raisins
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I don't want to give two controls to the same function. I want to duplicate a rig that has A and B controls. Then in rig 1 remove the B controls and in rig 2 remove the A controls.

Make sense?

I want to do this because it would save me a ton of time on this sweet project I'm working on.

Any ideas?
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23 Oct 2012 22:08 #15549 by BenB
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Build control A and control B as separate rigs to start with?

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23 Oct 2012 23:03 #15569 by Stupid Raisins
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Yes I can do that however it doesn't save me any time.
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23 Oct 2012 23:10 #15571 by BenB
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OK, I'm lost. How does making them together, then breaking them apart save time?

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23 Oct 2012 23:37 #15575 by Stupid Raisins
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Sorry. One has already been made. I duplicate a group with controls in the already made rig, change some names, values, etc... When I duplicate a group all the rigged controls are automatically added to the original rig/widget.

It would be great if I could then duplicate the original rig/widget and remove the original group controls to make a new rig/widget for the new group.

Does that make sense?
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23 Oct 2012 23:46 #15579 by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic Duplicate or Copy a Rig or Widget
Ah, afterthought, got it.

But, first, think though your template first.
Another, you can't duplicate controls. You can't have two controls for the same parameter. So then, how would you be able to duplicate the controls?

I get your point, but there are limitations we have to work with. Being able to simply find a quick solution and getting it done is the mark of creativity. Dual edged sword I guess.

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24 Oct 2012 00:40 #15589 by Stupid Raisins
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You're right. I think I found a creative way around it. I can drag the group into my Favorites folder and then from Favorites I can drag it into the project. It separates all the rigs!
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24 Oct 2012 01:00 #15590 by BenB
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You just gave me material for my next tutorial. HA-HA! Yes, that's a great way to work with them. I've never thought about placing rigs and widgets into the Favorites folder. That's great! Thanks for posting!

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24 Oct 2012 02:19 - 24 Oct 2012 02:20 #15605 by RobM
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Brilliant tip! That will save me a lot of time. The raisins are evolving.
Last edit: 24 Oct 2012 02:20 by RobM.

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24 Oct 2012 02:51 #15610 by Stupid Raisins
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Putting a rig/widget in Favorites folder won't do the trick. You need to put the Group or object that is attached to the rig/widget in Favorites. When you use it again, it automatically puts the rig/widget in.
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24 Oct 2012 02:54 #15611 by Stupid Raisins
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What does a raisin become when it evolves? A chocolate chip!
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24 Oct 2012 03:57 - 24 Oct 2012 03:57 #15617 by RobM
Replied by RobM on topic Duplicate or Copy a Rig or Widget
Ok. It can still be useful if you want to reuse a custom slider widget with multiple snapshot tags.
Lining up the snapshot tags at a precise value usually means a trip into the Motion XML.

Raisin Wine?
Last edit: 24 Oct 2012 03:57 by RobM.

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24 Oct 2012 14:59 #15675 by Stupid Raisins
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That's a good point. I'd love to dig into the XML to set a specific point. How do you find the snapshot tags in the xml file?

I came across a problem. I added a rigged group to favorites and when I use that group in my project it crashes Motion. Any ideas?
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24 Oct 2012 15:17 #15677 by Stupid Raisins
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I think I figured it out.

When I use the group from my favorites folder, it imports the group AND an associated widget. However it puts the widget in a group. If I add a Rig and put the widget under the Rig instead of the group, Motion doesn't crash.

Make sense?

Need pics or vid?
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24 Oct 2012 19:03 #15704 by RobM
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Yes that makes sense. Thanks for the experimentation.

Re snapshot tags - see this blog post from Alex4D:

alex4d.wordpress.com/2011/07/29/rigging-...-snapshot-positions/

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24 Oct 2012 21:07 #15714 by Stupid Raisins
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Thanks for the link. It worked wonderfully! :silly:
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25 Oct 2012 06:01 #15754 by RobM
Replied by RobM on topic Duplicate or Copy a Rig or Widget
I missed the original post. Simon Ubsdell put me on to it recently.

One more thing - if you want to use effects created in Motion 5.05 in FCP X 10.05 or edit them in Motion 5.04 then change this code at the top of the XML
Code:
<!DOCTYPE ozxmlscene> <ozml version="5.5"> <displayversion>5.0.5</displayversion>
to this:
Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!DOCTYPE ozxmlscene> <ozml version="5.2"> <displayversion>5.0.4</displayversion>

Titles with the new text edit markers will open but the markers won't appear in 5.04.

Could be some issues if they've updated any of the Motion filters used but all seems to be working fine with my colour grading effects.

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