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VIDEO COPILOT announces Element3D for AE
Andrew Kramer is clearly an AE guy like stated above, and he's an Adobe PR blessing. It's a shame that nobody like Andrew has come out in the Motion field. Yes, AE can do tons of things more than Motion, but Andrew's creativity, passion and attention to detail makes it look even more so. Mark Spencer has some really good Motion tutorials but they don't look anywhere as professional as Andrew's.
On the other hand I believe Apple is not really looking to go head to head with AE with Motion. AE has a broader scope with more functions, and Motion is much more targeted in workflows.
I really like both tools and I see them going in different directions.
Andrew did a couple of Motion tutorials and of course many of their products are independent of the software used, but it would be awesome if he did more tutorials on Motion and brought some of the plug-ins over.
The guys at Motionvfx do some great quality work on Motion, too bad they don't have tutorials like Video Copilot (the only tutorials are on using their plug-ins).
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when motion 3 came out it had the DOF and Shadows and Reflections Then I thought it going to the AE direction- But today we don't really know were its going ???
I must say that the rigging /publishing thing is nice but its more for broadcast tv fast were you need to crate then use then change then re use
not really for "creative" one of a kind Job
SO COME ON APPLE THAK IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL (and don't kill it please)
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As for rigging, it's super useful for more than just FCP X templates. It's an awesome way to link elements in complex ways and keyframe them all together with one control. Something I've been wanting in Motion for awhile.
I see no "logical" reason to suspect Motion will be dropped. Again, why put so much effort into it? Its going to be Motion for a long time, I doubt we'll see it change form or direction.
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This is true but if you look at Apples track record it has happened before. :huh:BenB wrote:
I see no "logical" reason to suspect Motion will be dropped. Again, why put so much effort into it? Its going to be Motion for a long time, I doubt we'll see it change form or direction.
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Both Shake and Color were acquisitions that Apple EOL'd without putting much custom work into them. I honestly think they were both technology/talent aquisitions, with their ultimate goal being to integrate functionality into the remaining apps.
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Scrubelicious wrote: This is true but if you look at Apples track record it has happened before
Apples track record is to drop apps they've not done much work to.
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Soundtrack Pro - Alot of it has made it into FCPX what hasn't is in Logic Pro (hopefully we will get a nice round trip feature to do mixing in Logic)
iWeb - was created to sell .Mac/Mobile Me which is now iCloud which sells for free. Why would Apple try and continue to to website hosting for $99 when you can get the same functionality out of iWeb for 50$ with a godaddy hosting plan. Since they are not selling .Mac/Mobile Me anymore why keep working on it.
AppleWorks - Has been replaced by iWork (Pages, Numbers and Keynote)
Livetype - Has been moved into motion. You can even use LiveFonts (To create custom livefonts what such a pain, that is also why you do not see a 3rd party market for it)
Also just to bring up iDVD - Apple wants you to share things to iPad/iPod/iPhone this is how they make money. And many of the new Apple Macs no longer come with SuperDrive. So there is no reason to still support it.
I think apple is still working on Motion, and it will only get better.
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This is true but as you mentioned they could move a few options from Motion into FCPX and cancel out Motion.Mikeybouchereau wrote: But if you look at the apps you named it makes sense.
Soundtrack Pro - Alot of it has made it into FCPX what hasn't is in Logic Pro...
Livetype - Has been moved into motion. You can even use LiveFonts (To create custom livefonts what such a pain, that is also why you do not see a 3rd party market for it)...
Some of the small options made its way into FCPX but not what really made Soundtrack... I want a Frequency Spectrum viewer
Not saying Motion will be killed or not, which I don't think. But as you stated it can happen its all about the business right. "iWeb is one of the best examples"
True like Shake was when it was announced EOL.BenB wrote: SoundTrack Pro is still selling as part of the boxed Logic Studio in the online Apple store.
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BenB wrote: SoundTrack Pro is still selling as part of the boxed Logic Studio in the online Apple store.
And the bundle includes MainStage and Waveburner (or at least it did when I bought it last November for $500 (ouch). Mainstage is also available in a newer standalone version on the app store.
Creating history....one edit at a time !
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I love Motion for, well... motion graphics. But it's giant blind spot is 3D motion tracking and geometry. Hopefully we'll either see Apple integrate 3D motion tracking to Motion itself, or that a 3rd party will release a plugin like Foundry's Camera Tracker. But it's an uphill battle, I think. AE has the unquestionable upper hand in this arena, with built in as well as lots of 3rd party support.
I don't even know if a plugin like Element3D could conceivably work within Motion. Element is basically a particle emitter.
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