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FCPX Crashes, freezes, kernel Panic... All of them 20 Jun 2020 16:14 #108048

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Note that freezing also happens when running other progz like photos and Finder, and that the FCPX problems seemed to be more intense while running other apps such as photos and VLC, but also firefox.

Freezing was kinda common and not only in FCPXsince I deleted my mac and strated fresh with new Catalina (up to date) and FCPX (also up to date).
Logic Pro works fine, I had no problems with it.
But Kernel Panic and therefore MAc rebooting only happens with FCPX, and it happens while rendering, or exporting, or BTW, trying to copy an event from one library to another one.
One specific Library/set of projects seem to intensify the action, but it might only be because it is by very far the largest one I have (50 minutes,over 400 GB, hundreds of clips, dozen of effects, ...) and I've been playing around with him a lot coz it was my first project on FCPX 2 months ago and I did'nt know how to manage the content.
It's been copied, moved, recovered from backups, rendered, de-rendered, generated media several times... So it's been a little mess but I was trying to get it organized and it's been a nightmare for 4 days now, I don't do anything else from my day than trying to fix this.

When I worked on the project 2 months ago, it was slow, but none of this was happening, not sure about freezing, but definitely not this constant crashes.

Macbook air 11" mid 2013, 1.7GHz i/, 8 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD
Catalina 10.15.5, FCPX 10.4.8.
External 1TB SanDisk SSD Extreme

I have already deleted render files, optimized files, the Proxy files weren't created 2 days ago, when I actually started doing it beacuse I wanted to try if editing on proxy would help. But nightmare is getting worst instead.

Also deleted FCPX yesterday and installed it again. Didn't help.
Equally deleted then the preferences doing so (also reinstalled Logic Pro just in case).

I do have hundreds of third party plugins, a lot of freebies, ...

I'm gonna start troubleshooting this, but my knowledge in this matters is poor.
Will follow steps found on other threads here and there.

Like this ones:
www.fcp.co/forum/4-final-cut-pro-x-fcpx/...g-in-final-cut-pro-x

support.apple.com/en-us/HT203477

blog.frame.io/2016/09/13/recognize-fix-common-problems-fcpx/

Just dowloaded the provideoformats and will try to reinstall it (I had 2.1.1, so up to date I think).
NExt step, resetting SMC I guess...

I'm almost in total despair. Nothing like that has happened to me in over 10 years using MAcs (true i I never edited video before, only Audio with Logic Pro).
My days are only focused on this and I don't see it improving.
It almost makes me stop editing, or at least dropping completely this single project.

I'm also gonna start some other smaller project see if it works.
Last week I did another video (that turned up super nice, so I was super motivated), but when trying to retrive this forst huge project to make a couple of shorter versions for promotion, All went to hell (though again, freezes have been happening anyway).

Oh, in this specific library, super mega slowness started when tried to use a few different plugins with dropzones (most free from motionVFX and some others) and I couldn't finish the rendering.
But again, troubles only intensified then, I kinda don't think that all the problems are related to these plugins.

Maybe there are some files that went corrupted, maybe some of the plugins aren't OK, maybe something went wrong with the OS (remember that it freezes sometimes even with finder.

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FCPX Crashes, freezes, kernel Panic... All of them 21 Jun 2020 10:55 #108057

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Free wrote: ...Logic Pro works fine, I had no problems with it.
But Kernel Panic and therefore MAc rebooting only happens with FCPX, and it happens while rendering, or exporting, or BTW, trying to copy an event from one library to another one....

A MacOS kernel panic or system hang is by definition not the fault of any regular application. Hardware-enforced process isolation ensures this. If it only happens with FCPX that is a coincidence. Its like a dilapidated bridge which only collapses when a 10-ton truck crosses it. It's supposed to handle a 50 ton truck -- the fault is the bridge not the truck.

Here are some steps you can take:

(1) Make sure you have plenty of free disk space on all disk volumes. You should have at least 20% free space.

(2) If you are using any external video or audio devices, as a troubleshooting step temporarily disconnect those. E.g. external monitor, wireless headphones, etc.

(3) Do not run Chrome or any browser based on Chrome. The app is poorly-behaved and saturates the MacOS VideoToolBox framework. In general this cannot crash or hang the OS but make sure you are not running that.

(4) Examine if any MacOS kernel extensions are in use. These run in privileged ring 0 and can potentially crash or hang MacOS. You can check if any are loaded by typing this command from a terminal window. This is safe to run, just do CMD-spacebar and type "terminal", then enter the below text exactly. If it returns anything, post those here. If it does not return anything you have no kernel extensions.

kextstat | grep -v com.apple

(5) Run Apple Diagnostics. This is a simple test and an error-free pass does not guarantee a clean bill of health. However it is easy to run, and sometimes will find a problem: support.apple.com/en-us/HT202731

(6) Run Disk Utility First Aid on all disk volumes, including the system drive. To run properly on the system drive you must boot in Recovery Mode: support.apple.com/en-us/HT201314

(7) Reset FCPX preferences. This likely will not fix the symptoms you experience but is easy and safe to do. See item 11 on this list: support.apple.com/en-us/HT203477

8. On your 1TB SanDisk SSD, make sure this is using the original thick, short USB cable, and is not going through a USB hub. New SSDs are extremely sensitive to cable type and any other cable or hub may cause the drive to revert to USB 2.0 speed or intermittently fail to respond to IO requests. This by itself should not crash the OS but it could aggravate things. All disks used with FCPX should be formatted HFS+ or APFS, not ExFAT.

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FCPX Crashes, freezes, kernel Panic... All of them 21 Jun 2020 14:18 #108062

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panic(cpu 3 caller 0xffffff800b24aa3a): Kernel trap at 0xffffff7f8d984c15, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x000000008001003b, CR2: 0x0000000000000000, CR3: 0x000000021264101e, CR4: 0x00000000001626e0
RAX: 0x0000000012286001, RBX: 0x00000000121c6101, RCX: 0x00000000121c6000, RDX: 0x0000000000000000
RSP: 0xffffff9141153910, RBP: 0xffffff9141153960, RSI: 0xffffff9141153924, RDI: 0xffffff8023b93800
R8: 0xffffff8021a707b0, R9: 0x0000000000000000, R10: 0x0000000000002000, R11: 0xffffff8021359800
R12: 0x000000001111c101, R13: 0x00000000111dc001, R14: 0x00000000111dc101, R15: 0xffffff9141153924
RFL: 0x0000000000010202, RIP: 0xffffff7f8d984c15, CS: 0x0000000000000008, SS: 0x0000000000000010
Fault CR2: 0x0000000000000000, Error code: 0x0000000000000002, Fault CPU: 0x3, PL: 0, VF: 0

Backtrace (CPU 3), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff9141153370 : 0xffffff800b11f5cd
0xffffff91411533c0 : 0xffffff800b258b05
0xffffff9141153400 : 0xffffff800b24a68e
0xffffff9141153450 : 0xffffff800b0c5a40
0xffffff9141153470 : 0xffffff800b11ec97
0xffffff9141153570 : 0xffffff800b11f087
0xffffff91411535c0 : 0xffffff800b8c27cc
0xffffff9141153630 : 0xffffff800b24aa3a
0xffffff91411537b0 : 0xffffff800b24a738
0xffffff9141153800 : 0xffffff800b0c5a40
0xffffff9141153820 : 0xffffff7f8d984c15
0xffffff9141153960 : 0xffffff7f8c5d651e
0xffffff91411539a0 : 0xffffff7f8c5d6a4f
0xffffff91411539d0 : 0xffffff7f8c5e567d
0xffffff9141153a10 : 0xffffff7f8d98a6af
0xffffff9141153a40 : 0xffffff7f8c5d400b
0xffffff9141153ac0 : 0xffffff800b85695e
0xffffff9141153b10 : 0xffffff800b854be7
0xffffff9141153b60 : 0xffffff800b85dcb3
0xffffff9141153ca0 : 0xffffff800b2082b2
0xffffff9141153db0 : 0xffffff800b125328
0xffffff9141153e10 : 0xffffff800b0fbcc5
0xffffff9141153e70 : 0xffffff800b112aa2
0xffffff9141153f00 : 0xffffff800b230d05
0xffffff9141153fa0 : 0xffffff800b0c6226
Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
com.apple.iokit.IOAcceleratorFamily2(438.5.4)[D695D9DA-7C20-35D6-910F-E7A332A0F515]@0xffffff7f8c5cd000->0xffffff7f8c691fff
dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleMobileFileIntegrity(1.0.5)[E35D090D-DB9E-3DD0-9723-651FA730AA13]@0xffffff7f8c1e9000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[BE052F4D-9B80-3FCD-B36D-BACB7DEE0DF2]@0xffffff7f8bb31000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOSurface(269.11)[F1E7389D-2807-3C5D-8A7F-5422542E867F]@0xffffff7f8c53c000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(576.1)[B1C0006F-E1F5-37D9-9548-5F918E92B422]@0xffffff7f8c56e000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOReportFamily(47)[1FB49168-0280-3F04-A99A-F830C915E994]@0xffffff7f8bf18000
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHD5000Graphics(14.0.6)[46CD85D7-9003-3C65-9B36-A1C9B9D8C377]@0xffffff7f8d955000->0xffffff7f8d9d0fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[BE052F4D-9B80-3FCD-B36D-BACB7DEE0DF2]@0xffffff7f8bb31000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOSurface(269.11)[F1E7389D-2807-3C5D-8A7F-5422542E867F]@0xffffff7f8c53c000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(576.1)[B1C0006F-E1F5-37D9-9548-5F918E92B422]@0xffffff7f8c56e000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOAcceleratorFamily2(438.5.4)[D695D9DA-7C20-35D6-910F-E7A332A0F515]@0xffffff7f8c5cd000

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: Final Cut Pro
Boot args: serverperfmode=1

Mac OS version:
19F101

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 19.5.0: Tue May 26 20:41:44 PDT 2020; root:xnu-6153.121.2~2/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 54F1A78D-6F41-32BD-BFED-4381F9F6E2EF
Kernel slide: 0x000000000ae00000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff800b000000
__HIB text base: 0xffffff800af00000
System model name: MacBookAir6,1 (Mac-35C1E88140C3E6CF)
System shutdown begun: NO
Panic diags file available: YES (0x0)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 36921906393287
last loaded kext at 111820897418: @filesystems.msdosfs 1.10 (addr 0xffffff7f8c840000, size 69632)
loaded kexts:
com.paragon-software.filesystems.ntfs 106.5.15
com.objective-see.lulu 1.2.3
@filesystems.msdosfs 1.10
@filesystems.exfat 1.4
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@fileutil 20.036.15
>AGPM 111.4.4
>!APlatformEnabler 2.7.0d0
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@filesystems.autofs 3.0
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>!AHV 1
|IOUserEthernet 1.0.1
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@Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 7.0.0
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>eficheck 1
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FCPX Crashes, freezes, kernel Panic... All of them 21 Jun 2020 14:28 #108063

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I have already deleted render files, optimized files, the Proxy files weren't created 2 days ago, when I actually started doing it beacuse I wanted to try if editing on proxy would help. But nightmare is getting worst instead.

Also deleted FCPX yesterday and installed it again. Didn't help.
Equally deleted then the preferences doing so (also reinstalled Logic Pro just in case).

Just dowloaded the provideoformats and will try to reinstall it (I had 2.1.1, so up to date I think). (Done)

Next step, resetting SMC I guess... (done)

Starting in safe mode (done)

Running diagnosis by pressing D on start. (Done)

I'm also gonna start some other smaller project see if it works. (Done)

Checking third parties kexts as suggested on the first thread:
kextstat | grep -v com.apple
Index Refs Address Size Wired Name (Version) UUID <Linked Against>
153 1 0xffffff7f80fb0000 0x5000 0x5000 com.objective-see.lulu (1.2.3) 57842B9A-B805-3781-8D0B-05DEF9775578 <8 6 5 3 1>
162 0 0xffffff7f80fe6000 0x42000 0x42000 com.paragon-software.filesystems.ntfs (106.5.15) 4575C073-7080-3B2F-AF62-A365668ACD34 <8 6 5 1>
homefree@MacBook-Air ~ %

Checked all drives again (I do it often) with Disk Utility AND Paragon NTFS for Mac.
All drives seem to be Ok (though the whole OS froze without me being able to do anything for like a minute after opening NTFS and selecting the inner SSD, then, all test positive) 

Also tried last version (5.2) of disk warrior but it’s useless, it says doesn’t support any ExFAT not FAT32 format, the internal drive it says that cannot rebuild coz newer file format, and Time Machine one needs to be done from a recovery disk. So it wouldn’t help with any of the 5 drives that appear…
Only thing I could do is hardware test the internal drive, did it. All OK

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FCPX Crashes, freezes, kernel Panic... All of them 21 Jun 2020 14:33 #108065

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Hi Free
Welcome to the forums, sorry to hear of your problems. Don't give up! Just pull out some hair:P
I think all the info Joema gave is great, but could you clarify if your Mac is actually experiencing "Kernal Panics" while using other programs or do you just experience a "Freeze"?
You may have more than 1 issue.
What codecs are you using? What camera or source of media is in your project? Have you tried to use a different user account?
There are some additional tools that you can use. Your Mac did record the KP's but finding and interpreting the reasons does take some work.
I recommend that you download EtreCheck from EtreSoft from the App Store and run it on your Mac. This can be a valuable resource and the interface is easy to use and read.
For a more extensive examination, you need to read the logs or use Console(Yikes).
Howard Oakley offers some great free apps and instructions on how to read log files. See these articles…
eclecticlight.co/2020/06/17/what-caused-...he-log-in-diagnosis/
eclecticlight.co/2020/06/19/why-did-that...-the-log-with-ulbow/

There is also Activity Monitor in your Utilities folder. While this will not run if you have a true KP, but it gives valuable info on what processes are running and how it affects your Mac. Opening it while running FCPX may offer insight. For example, if you are shooting with your iPhone and using the new HEIC format, your computer has to translate that format and it is very processor intensive on older Macs not having the latest hardware chips. This can slow down your Mac. Activity Monitor is good for getting a general idea of what is going on under the hood. Memory and RAM usage is shown so you know if you are hitting limits. Check your Swap file size. Lots of swaps indicates not enough RAM and "swapping" files will slow down you computer and if you are low on drive space, it will crawl. It is also possible to have a bad RAM chip that only sometimes hits that cell and randomly causes a panic especially under heavy loads. You have to stress test RAM to see intermittent issues. Sometimes RAM is fine until your Mac runs hot for example and that can cause thermo issues.

Sounds like your project is a nightmare and given that you have had to "recover" files from multiple sources including backups, tells me that you could also have corrupt files. If you can open and start a new FCPX project in a different user, without problems, that would indicate issues tied to your account, or the media/plug-ins or other problems. If you can use with a new user, try importing the problem project into new user and see if problems then occur. If so, most likely some corrupt file.

Sorry for the hair loss, hang in there.
Hope this Helps, Greg

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FCPX Crashes, freezes, kernel Panic... All of them 21 Jun 2020 15:33 #108067

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Hey first of all, thanks so much for the reply, highly appreciated, I'm new to the forum (or any forum BTW).

I don't think it's a coincidence... Freeze happens at other places, but total crash (and what I think to be a kernel panic, it says panic in the log), only happens with FCPX running and it's pretty consistent, some days, running a specific process, it happens, and everytime I try that one, it does it. No mater if I do close all the other apps, run CleanMyMac to clean the RAM and others, restart the FCPX, ... It's very consistent with FCPX.

answering your suggestions:

1- I always do, I had 130-200 GB in the external SSD (where this one project is located since it's too big for the internal) and now after deleting generated files and started all over again, over 300 GB. Also in the internal SSD, I have always over 100 (140 now) GB. Keeps happening.

2- Not using any external video or audio devices, sometimes i have earphones plugged, but today it's not the case.

3- I had realized long time ago that running a browser did take half of my RAM, so sometimes I do (this caused 2 crashes today), but in general I try not to run any browser, nor ANY other app and run cleanmymac before ... Keeps happening

4- Done, There are 2 3rd party kexts: LuLu and Paragon. Those are an open source firewall and the prog I use to be able to write on FAT and such. I might have to try and disable NTFS, see what happens... (uninstalled Paragon NTFS, only LuLu shows up now)

5- Diagnosis done. All Good.

6- First aid in disk utility in recovery mode done, also done with Paragon NTFS and even tried with Disk Warrior (which just doesn’t work, new file system or Fat aren’t supported…). All OK.

7- I have uninstalled FCPX, and therefore, deleted the preferences with it. (Done again independently).

8- So, the external SSD is formatted in Ex-FAT, as it is shared with my partner that uses win 10.
Cable is the original as you say, small and thick no hub ever, but the original does come with an adaptor from USB-C to USB-A that I’m using (got no choice here), but again, it’s the original that came with the cable and the SSD.
I’ve never had a problem before this project doing so… I’ve edited the huge library in here for a month and it’s one after retaking the library in order to do a shorter version of the export for promo, adding lots of plugins and templates (drop zone ones are those I’m looking suspiciously…).
I might try to get all the information out, create 2 partitions in this SSD to be able to have my info in APFS and her info in EX-FAT, just to make sure…
Though I don’t have anywhere to put the files into while formatting this drive! :(

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FCPX Crashes, freezes, kernel Panic... All of them 22 Jun 2020 11:14 #108082

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There is a really good chance CleanMyMac has hosed your Mac. I could run a test by installing the OS on an external SSD with only FCP and see if you have the issues. If you do the problem is likely hardware associated. The hardest test on the system is very basic and really reliable.

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There is a really good chance CleanMyMac has hosed your Mac. I could run a test by installing the OS on an external SSD with only FCP and see if you have the issues. If you do the problem is likely hardware associated. The hardest test on the system is very basic and really reliable.

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FCPX Crashes, freezes, kernel Panic... All of them 22 Jun 2020 11:30 #108084

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That is a MacOS kernel panic. It is caused by hardware, a system config issue or a buggy kernel extension. It cannot be fixed by making changes at the application level -- IOW changing anything in FCPX. I suggest you remove the LuLu kernel extension and try that.

In general Paragon is reliable but it's a kernel extension and when you're having kernel panics the standard procedure is remove all kernel extensions.

What Tom said is correct -- boot MacOS from an external drive. I can't remember whether non-T2 machines have secure boot, but if so you'd need to first boot into Recovery Mode, use Utilities>Startup Security to disable that, else it won't allow booting from an external drive.

When booting from a fresh install of MacOS on an external drive and with with no kernel extensions loaded, if it crashes then let us know.

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FCPX Crashes, freezes, kernel Panic... All of them 22 Jun 2020 15:53 #108091

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Right on, I'll keep trying stuff.
It's been over a week I'm only doing this 24/7.
I'm about to just stop editing.

I understand what you say about kernel panic not being FCPX problem, though it's a pretty big coincidence that it only happens with FCPX and that it had happened quite consistently while doing some processes there.

Also, even if the specific kernel issue would be outside of FCPX, it still freezes and hangs constantly, so there's still something bad with it.

Actually I haven't had kernel panic for the last couple of days, I woudn't even know since the app hangs or freezes anyway before that.
Right now I'm not even concerned anymore with kernel panic, I can't reproduce it coz everything is so slow and hangs/freezes, so I need to solve this first and then focus on kernel paic if it keeps happening.

I will try at some point to also delete LuLu (already done with Paragon NTFS), if I find the way to try and reboot the system form an external drive, I might do it too...

As a side note, forums (I guess all of them) are pretty confusing coz messages only show up the next day!! I never know if my reply has gone through, I missed some of my replies (I'm gonna post another one after this, but it was from yesterday) beacause of this.

Is there anywhere to check what messages are on hold and when they will get posted?

Thanks for your time. Highly appreciated.

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FCPX Crashes, freezes, kernel Panic... All of them 22 Jun 2020 15:54 #108092

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So... Thanks for the reply! It's great to ahve somebody trying to help.
This is quite a bit of new information for a non epxerienced person!

I do think it's kernel panic and that it's caused by FCPX because I can read this in the logs after crashes:

panic(cpu 0 caller 0xffffff800884aa3a): Kernel trap at 0xffffff7f8af84c15, type 14=page fault, registers:

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: Final Cut Pro
Boot args: serverperfmode=1

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 19.5.0: Tue May 26 20:41:44 PDT 2020; root:xnu-6153.121.2~2/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 54F1A78D-6F41-32BD-BFED-4381F9F6E2EF
Kernel slide: 0x0000000008400000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff8008600000
__HIB text base: 0xffffff8008500000
System model name: MacBookAir6,1 (Mac-35C1E88140C3E6CF)
System shutdown begun: NO
Panic diags file available: YES (0x0)


But I've also experienced freezes before that for a while (maybe ever since I've installed fresh Catalina and a whole bunch of apps, plugins and so on, ...
And no, it doesn't crash the whole system at any time when I'm not running FCPX, but it does so at different stages, regardless that I'm using or not other apps.

When computer shuts down, there is a text saying, in different languages this:

"Your computer restarted because of a problem. Press a key or wait a few seconds to cintinue starting up."

I don't totally understand the question about what codecs I am using, I export everything with H.264, but I couldn't tell what these files are coded with.
This project was a birthday project, so I got a hundred files from 100 different people, made with mostly their phones, though some had edited them before hand.
Checking the originals, I can tell that all videos are either .mp4 or .mov or .MOV (never been sure whether there's a difference when it's in capital letters...), and the images are all in .jpg or .png.

But, again, this project was finished with all this files a month ago without any of this crashes (some freexes though, using FCPX mostly, but also using other apps), they've only started when trying to retrive it to make smaller version with this super cool looking multi-clip dropzones plugins or templates.

I haven't tried using a different account, will do.

Note that before this last nightmare week, I did another project with only the footage of my iPhone 11 pro, and while had to close FCPX Several times, I didn't experience any full system crash.

The rest.... Is pretty intense for me, but I'm having a look at it all.

Checking activity monitor…
I’ve always had cleanmymac monitor to see the RAM and CPU usage, but this looks way more intensive, so I’ll try to get familiar with it (it’d be nice to have some kind of widget or have it in the top bar all the time.

Learning about the swaps, interesting to know and I’ve checked the folder where it’s suppose to be and there’s nothing (though the sleep file is indeed there)… I guess it’s only there when needed.

“If you’re curious where the swap files are stored on your Mac, they’re located at:
/private/var/vm/
This directly also contains your sleepimage file”

Ran EterCheck .
The only weird thing I’ve seen there its this:, a process running 108.19% without a source?
“Top Processes Snapshot by CPU:
    Process (count) CPU (Source - Location)
    Other processes 108.19 % (?)
    Finder 9.63 % (Apple)
    EtreCheck 8.09 % (App Store)
    firefox 7.15 % (Mozilla Corporation)”

But there’s also this, so definitely kernel panic:
“This system has experienced kernel panics. This could be a sign of hardware failure.”

I clicked on open report… I’m glad the app is able to show me a full on list of freaking numbers and letters without any meaning! Made a pic, I’m gonna make a meme out of this… I gotta at least laugh a little bit out of the situation! I showed it to my partner and she said that it looks like what I understand when a woman enter in panic’s log…. XDDD

Diagnostics (past 7 days)
Type: Kernel PanicOpen Report
Application: Kernel
Count: 6
Last date: 2020-06-21 09:21:20
Type: High CPU UseOpen Report
Application: Final Cut Pro.appShow in Finder
Executable: /Applications/Final Cut Pro.app
Count: 19
Last date: 2020-06-21 08:50:46
Details: Invalid parameter not satisfying: [NSThread isMainThread]
abort() called
Type: CrashOpen Report
Application: cfprefsdShow in Finder
Executable: /usr/sbin/cfprefsd
Date: 2020-06-19 17:41:33
Details: dyld3 mode
Type: High CPU UseOpen Report
Application: DiskImageMounter.appShow in Finder
Executable: /System/Library/CoreServices/DiskImageMounter.app
Date: 2020-06-19 16:08:13
Type: CrashOpen Report
Application: Windscribe.appShow in Finder
Executable: /Applications/Windscribe.app
Date: 2020-06-19 16:04:03


BTW, there’s a file on my desktop and I don’t have a clue where it comes from!!
VideoAppDiagnostics-FinalCut-2020-06-21-094619.tar
And it has a lot of crash reports from FCPX! What the… Where does it come from?


I have also downloaded Ulbow, but reading the explanations, it seems way too technical for me ATM.
I’m not looking to go that deep, I also gotta live a little bit!! :(
But se’ll see.
The good side is that I’ve learned a lot indeed from all this, see if I can solve it, or well, I guess I’ll ditch this project soon, hoping that it doesn’t happen with other ones.

I still have to try the different user thing, and work from there.

I have a couple of questions though:

- If Media files could be corrupted… How do I change them? I think I might still have most of the originals. Would it be enough just to drag and drop them on the project? Or maybe deleting them in the finder in the library itself and replace them there?
- What if it is a bad plugin? I have so many plugins and the organisation of FCPX plugins is so horrible, that this is actually the last thing I’d like to do… There are installed in several different places, some are installed by managers, others by hand… I guess this is more a rant that a question…
- If I do go in deeply find in the log the reason… Would I be able then to specifically point at the file or plugin, or other reason causing the problems?
- I didn’t get the importing the project in a different user. How do you “import a project”? You just open the library and then go to the project, right? Or you mean something with the XML? How would that be? I understand that if everything works just fine, it could be an account problem (though other projects seem to work better, but there all much smaller), but if it’s a corrupted file or plugin… Shouldn’t it happen the same? I mean, if the same exact project works fine there, then, it’s not a corrupted file or plugin… Isn’t it?


Well, not loosing my hair, but it is getting whiter, she kinda likes that fact, makes me look sexier… ;)
But she doesn’t like the fact that I’m spending a whole week only with this and that I’m looking my energy and creativity….

THANKS A LOT!!!

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FCPX Crashes, freezes, kernel Panic... All of them 23 Jun 2020 01:43 #108108

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Hi Free
OK lots going on and many questions to answer.
First Things First - - - Make Sure you have Back-Ups!! Given what is going on, you need to have back-ups (3 including offsite((iCloud?) if you can)
Short answer and what I would recommend you do now is to reinstall the OS. After backing up!

While you have not posted your entire EtreCheck Report, it is showing KP's and app crashes by several operations in the last 7 days, Yikes. FCPX crashed 19 times. At least now you know the difference between kernel panics and app crashes.

Since you stated that you recently upgraded the OS to Catalina and that is when you noticed issues, it is entirely possible that you got a corrupted install and maybe a core service or framework code got toasted.
You can reinstall without loosing data (You did back up, right?) by following these instructions… support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/reinstall-macos-mchlp1599/mac
In essence you hold down the Option+Command+R keys while booting to download and install the latest version available for your Mac.
I think this is a good way to eliminate the MacOS as cause. Good internet speeds help here.
Today WWDC started, and historically the Apple servers get hammered so be patient.

I think it is also possible that you have a hardware issue, possibly RAM?? Could also a chip going, but try the reinstall first. You can stress test RAM with an app Rember which is just a Graphic User Interface (GUI) for the built-in Memtest. You can run Memtest in Terminal if you want. This program will run data loops to stress test RAM. RAM can work OK sometimes, but stressed and heated up may fail.

Joema is right about apps are not supposed to crash the OS, but it can happen. If an app makes a call to a corrupt system code/processes, it can cause issues and even app crashes or Kernel Panics.

With the snippets of reports you listed, only the last KP is shown and it shows FCPX making a call to panic(cpu 3 caller 0xffffff800b24aa3a): Kernel trap at 0xffffff7f8d984c15, type 14=page fault, registers:
This indicates that the system made a call to an invalid page(register)

RIP: 0xffffff7f8d984c15
This is the register that was called that is faulty and is a program counter(What exactly it is, is unknown)

Fault CR2: 0x0000000000000000, Error code: 0x0000000000000002, Fault CPU: 0x3, PL: 0, VF: 0
This is the address of the memory that caused the fault. Deciphering some of this requires a decompiler, and not something you want to do.
So all of this mostly points to the OS not finding a register and page of instructions it needs. Could create a loop of calls and responses. Really need to see actual logs at time of KP.

Yes Ulbow can be intimidating so everyone should use what they are comfortable with. What Howard is providing are tools to go deeper than Apple's to help diagnose your system. Apple is not known for detailed and specific error codes. Most are generalized and poorly documented IMHO. Ulbow gives us more diagnostic power and great search and filtering ability.

The file on your desktop (VideoAppDiagnostics-FinalCut) was created by FCPX and relates to your preferences(Or so I thought??). Interesting about the reports. Can you read them? Try highlighting and then hitting spacebar to open with QuickLook. Just curious.

I now doubt it is your media at this point. However, having lots of different video/stills formats and then using lots of plug-ins especially drop zones with multi-cam clips could slow down your project. Beachballs. This may be a second issue not fully related to the KP but could explain FCPX crashing. Try using a different user with no plug-ins and see if sluggishness will go away. You can import some footage off your iPhone/camcorder/media files on drive, and create new library/event/project. Does it work better?

.mov/mp4 are just containers,

Free, I really hope you can resolve this and create a fantastic birthday gift.

Best of Luck
Hope this Helps, Greg

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FCPX Crashes, freezes, kernel Panic... All of them 23 Jun 2020 14:30 #108130

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Free wrote: ...it's a pretty big coincidence that it only happens with FCPX and that it had happened quite consistently while doing some processes there....even if the specific kernel issue would be outside of FCPX, it still freezes and hangs constantly, so there's still something bad with it...

In general the process isolation between user-mode apps and the kernel-mode OS (enforced by CPU hardware) means it's impossible for any user-mode app to accidentally or maliciously crash the OS -- UNLESS there is something defective with the hardware, OS or system configuration. If there were some loophole, then an intentional malicious user-mode app could exploit this and crash the OS on thousands or millions of machines.

It is vital this be understood, else corrective measures will be focused on the wrong area and it will never get fixed. There is no bug or error in FCPX that can be fixed to solve this. If we had all the FCPX source code and the complete build environment, there is nothing we could fix.

You are seeing some kind of system instability which is triggered by a normal FCPX workload. If some other app used exactly the same workload, the kernel panic would also happen. You don't see this because the workload imposed on the system is a complex multi-dimensional "surface" composed of many threads exercising the lower layers and creating a unique state.

While an app can't crash the OS (unless the system layer is defective), the opposite is not true. A system-layer instability can cause applications to crash, esp. complex apps which vigorously exercise the system layer. The fact FCPX is crashing only means we must focus diagnostic and corrective steps at a lower layer.

As VidGreg said, re-installing MacOS is one good step. Unlike Windows, this does not wipe out your existing apps because there is no registry. Another step is creating a new user account and running FCPX workloads from there. Sometimes problems are account-specific.

Free wrote: ...I don't totally understand the question about what codecs I am using, I export everything with H.264, but I couldn't tell what these files are coded with. This project was a birthday project, so I got a hundred files from 100 different people, made with mostly their phones


By codecs, this means the source media you are using. Each file from each camera or phone may be encoded using a different codec, which in turn causes FCPX to run different software code, thereby making different API calls and exercising different system layers, including hardware. You can see the codec by playing those in Quicktime and doing CMD+I.

If many of those came from phones there's a good chance some of that is HEVC. There is an FCPX bug which began with 10.4.7 on both Mojave and Catalina for some HEVC codecs. This cannot crash the OS but it can hang or crash FCPX. If you have 100 files that would take a while to examine using Quicktime. However there is a method to search those using Finder:

In Finder do CMD+F, then change "Kind" to "Other", then pick "codecs" This will add a codec search to Finder. Then repeat that but select Codecs contains HEVC, and for search scope pick "This Mac". This will do a Spotlight indexed search of metadata in all files for those using HEVC encoding.

The purpose of that is to roughly assess how many HEVC media files you have and whether you are using those in FCPX. Unfortunately there is no built-in FCPX method to list all media files in a library, but Final Cut Library Manager has an add-on feature which does this and produces a CSV file: www.arcticwhiteness.com/finalcutlibrarymanager/

Once located, in FCPX you could transcode those HEVC files to optimized media. If FCPX hangs or crashes during the transcode, that might be the known bug or it could be triggered by an underlying system problem. If you can get those transcoded to HEVC it will at least use a different code path and not stress the HEVC decoding hardware. You have a system layer issue so this cannot fix that but it might somehow alter the workload to improve reliability.

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FCPX Crashes, freezes, kernel Panic... All of them 24 Jun 2020 04:15 #108145

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Yes, I can read those crash reports on the folder "VideoAppDiagnostics-FinalCut-2020-06-21-094619"
Still don't understand why it's there, You say it's an FCPX created folder, but I don't remember having asked for anything like that there and definitely the only time I've seen it.

Folders inside are:
Caches
DiagnosticReports
Preferences
Projects
SystemLog
SystemProfile
WindowLayouts

16 crash reports,
This is what one of them says:

Process: Final Cut Pro [2445]
Path: /Applications/Final Cut Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/Final Cut Pro
Identifier: Final Cut Pro
Version: 10.4.8 (358560)
Build Info: ProEditor-35856000076000000~7 (15B18c)
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: ??? [1]
Responsible: Final Cut Pro [2445]
User ID: 501

Date/Time: 2020-06-19 13:14:10.654 -0500
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.15.5 (19F101)
Report Version: 12
Anonymous UUID: C6AE5E64-21A6-4717-BDCF-BCCFBD54BC2C


Time Awake Since Boot: 520 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.flexo.ffsl.dwsq

Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Application Specific Information:
invoking 'rateConformEffect' on invalid proxy object <FFEffectStack 0x60001c9dc0f0>
abort() called

Application Specific Backtrace 1:
0 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff39ec1be7 __exceptionPreprocess + 250
1 libobjc.A.dylib 0x00007fff72b005bf objc_exception_throw + 48
2 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff39ec1a45 +[NSException raise:format:] + 189
3 DeepSkyLite 0x0000000107402490 -[DSObject DSObjectInitWithInvocation:] + 308
4 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff39e261f5 ___forwarding___ + 829
5 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff39e25e28 _CF_forwarding_prep_0 + 120
6 Flexo 0x0000000108bfe747 -[FFAnchoredCollection _computeUntimedUnclippedRange] + 199
7 Flexo 0x0000000108bfe9c8 -[FFAnchoredCollection untimedUnclippedRange] + 472
8 Flexo 0x0000000108bff089 -[FFAnchoredCollection unclippedRange] + 841
9 Flexo 0x0000000108be084b -[FFAnchoredTransition _getMaxMediaAvailableUsingLeft] + 123
10 Flexo 0x0000000108be0e02 -[FFAnchoredTransition transitionAmountFromLeft:] + 434
11 Flexo 0x0000000108bfd952 -[FFAnchoredCollection _childOffsetForObjectCachingSiblings:] + 642
12 Flexo 0x0000000108bfde31 -[FFAnchoredCollection childToParentOffsetForChildCachingSiblings:] + 193
13 Flexo 0x0000000108936796 -[FFAnchoredObject localToParentOffset] + 70
14 Flexo 0x0000000108936e72 -[FFAnchoredObject localToParentTimeRange:] + 50
15 Flexo 0x0000000108bfdf85 -[FFAnchoredCollection _calculatedTimeRangeOfSpine:anchors:] + 309
16 Flexo 0x0000000108bfe6c7 -[FFAnchoredCollection _computeUntimedUnclippedRange] + 71
17 Flexo 0x0000000108bfe9c8 -[FFAnchoredCollection untimedUnclippedRange] + 472
18 Flexo 0x0000000108bff089 -[FFAnchoredCollection unclippedRange] + 841
19 Flexo 0x00000001089eea80 -[FFAnchoredSequence unclippedRange] + 80
20 Flexo 0x00000001089eeadd -[FFAnchoredSequence mediaRange] + 29
21 Flexo 0x00000001089f59a2 -[FFAnchoredSequence _actionBeginEditing] + 306
22 Flexo 0x00000001089f11f1 -[FFAnchoredSequence notifyEffectsDidLoadInBackground:] + 129
23 MotionEffect 0x0000000128a3287f +[FFMotionEffect _notifyDocIsLoadedImpl:] + 1087
24 Flexo 0x00000001091766b9 FFApplicationHandleExceptionThatShouldNotBeIgnoredInBlock + 9
25 MotionEffect 0x0000000128a32366 __45+[FFMotionEffect _notifyDocIsLoaded:request:]_block_invoke_2 + 73
26 Flexo 0x00000001086949db __56-[FFSharedLock queueDeferredWriteLockBlockOnMainThread:]_block_invoke_2 + 123
27 Flexo 0x00000001091766b9 FFApplicationHandleExceptionThatShouldNotBeIgnoredInBlock + 9
28 Flexo 0x0000000108694953 __56-[FFSharedLock queueDeferredWriteLockBlockOnMainThread:]_block_invoke + 67
29 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c4e658 _dispatch_client_callout + 8
30 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c50d79 _dispatch_block_invoke_direct + 245
31 Flexo 0x0000000108694e62 -[FFSharedLock _deferredWriteHandler] + 466
32 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c4d6c4 _dispatch_call_block_and_release + 12
33 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c4e658 _dispatch_client_callout + 8
34 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c53c44 _dispatch_lane_serial_drain + 597
35 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c54609 _dispatch_lane_invoke + 414
36 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c59b6d _dispatch_main_queue_callback_4CF + 618
37 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff39e84f11 __CFRUNLOOP_IS_SERVICING_THE_MAIN_DISPATCH_QUEUE__ + 9
38 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff39e44d17 __CFRunLoopRun + 2028
39 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff39e43ece CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 462
40 HIToolbox 0x00007fff38cd5357 __CoreDragBeginSlideBackAnimation + 749
41 HIServices 0x00007fff381051dd DragInApplication + 556
42 HIServices 0x00007fff38103f98 CoreDragStartDragging + 612
43 AppKit 0x00007fff37435f7e -[NSCoreDragManager _dragUntilMouseUp:accepted:] + 1304
44 AppKit 0x00007fff3743498e -[NSCoreDragManager dragImage:fromWindow:at:offset:event:pasteboard:source:slideBack:] + 2942
45 AppKit 0x00007fff37433dff -[NSWindow(NSDrag) dragImage:at:offset:event:pasteboard:source:slideBack:] + 134
46 Flexo 0x0000000108a2e425 -[FFOrganizerFilmstripView _dragClipsOutOfOrganizer:withEvent:andRangeAndObjects:] + 2741
47 Flexo 0x0000000108a27ffc -[FFOrganizerFilmstripView _handleMouseDown:inProjectChunk:] + 3964
48 Flexo 0x000000010948d369 -[FFOrganizerFilmstripViewPro unhandledMouseDown:] + 505
49 Flexo 0x0000000108d7ffd1 -[FFResponderLayerHostView mouseDown:] + 753
50 AppKit 0x00007fff372f5e10 -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) _handleMouseDownEvent:isDelayedEvent:] + 4914
51 AppKit 0x00007fff37260611 -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) _reallySendEvent:isDelayedEvent:] + 2612
52 AppKit 0x00007fff3725f9b9 -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) sendEvent:] + 349
53 AppKit 0x00007fff3725dd44 -[NSApplication(NSEvent) sendEvent:] + 352
54 LunaKit 0x000000010a8005d8 -[LKApplication sendEvent:] + 56
55 Flexo 0x000000010874d474 -[FFApplication sendEvent:] + 516
56 AppKit 0x00007fff370aadaf -[NSApplication run] + 707
57 LunaKit 0x000000010a8010fb LKApplicationMain + 363
58 libdyld.dylib 0x00007fff73ca7cc9 start + 1
59 ??? 0x0000000000000001 0x0 + 1

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.flexo.ffsl.dwsq
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73def33a __pthread_kill + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eabe60 pthread_kill + 430
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff73d76808 abort + 120
3 com.apple.Flexo 0x0000000109176675 FFApplicationHandleExceptionThatShouldNotBeIgnored + 469
4 com.apple.Flexo 0x00000001091766cd FFApplicationHandleExceptionThatShouldNotBeIgnoredInBlock + 29
5 com.apple.Motion.effect 0x0000000128a32366 __45+[FFMotionEffect _notifyDocIsLoaded:request:]_block_invoke_2 + 73
6 com.apple.Flexo 0x00000001086949db __56-[FFSharedLock queueDeferredWriteLockBlockOnMainThread:]_block_invoke_2 + 123
7 com.apple.Flexo 0x00000001091766b9 FFApplicationHandleExceptionThatShouldNotBeIgnoredInBlock + 9
8 com.apple.Flexo 0x0000000108694953 __56-[FFSharedLock queueDeferredWriteLockBlockOnMainThread:]_block_invoke + 67
9 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c4e658 _dispatch_client_callout + 8
10 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c50d79 _dispatch_block_invoke_direct + 245
11 com.apple.Flexo 0x0000000108694e62 -[FFSharedLock _deferredWriteHandler] + 466
12 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c4d6c4 _dispatch_call_block_and_release + 12
13 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c4e658 _dispatch_client_callout + 8
14 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c53c44 _dispatch_lane_serial_drain + 597
15 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c54609 _dispatch_lane_invoke + 414
16 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c59b6d _dispatch_main_queue_callback_4CF + 618
17 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff39e84f11 __CFRUNLOOP_IS_SERVICING_THE_MAIN_DISPATCH_QUEUE__ + 9
18 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff39e44d17 __CFRunLoopRun + 2028
19 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff39e43ece CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 462
20 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff38cd5357 __CoreDragBeginSlideBackAnimation + 749
21 com.apple.HIServices 0x00007fff381051dd DragInApplication + 556
22 com.apple.HIServices 0x00007fff38103f98 CoreDragStartDragging + 612
23 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff37435f7e -[NSCoreDragManager _dragUntilMouseUp:accepted:] + 1304
24 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff3743498e -[NSCoreDragManager dragImage:fromWindow:at:offset:event:pasteboard:source:slideBack:] + 2942
25 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff37433dff -[NSWindow(NSDrag) dragImage:at:offset:event:pasteboard:source:slideBack:] + 134
26 com.apple.Flexo 0x0000000108a2e425 -[FFOrganizerFilmstripView _dragClipsOutOfOrganizer:withEvent:andRangeAndObjects:] + 2741
27 com.apple.Flexo 0x0000000108a27ffc -[FFOrganizerFilmstripView _handleMouseDown:inProjectChunk:] + 3964
28 com.apple.Flexo 0x000000010948d369 -[FFOrganizerFilmstripViewPro unhandledMouseDown:] + 505
29 com.apple.Flexo 0x0000000108d7ffd1 -[FFResponderLayerHostView mouseDown:] + 753
30 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff372f5e10 -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) _handleMouseDownEvent:isDelayedEvent:] + 4914
31 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff37260611 -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) _reallySendEvent:isDelayedEvent:] + 2612
32 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff3725f9b9 -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) sendEvent:] + 349
33 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff3725dd44 -[NSApplication(NSEvent) sendEvent:] + 352
34 com.apple.LunaKit 0x000000010a8005d8 -[LKApplication sendEvent:] + 56
35 com.apple.Flexo 0x000000010874d474 -[FFApplication sendEvent:] + 516
36 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff370aadaf -[NSApplication run] + 707
37 com.apple.LunaKit 0x000000010a8010fb LKApplicationMain + 363
38 libdyld.dylib 0x00007fff73ca7cc9 start + 1

Thread 1:: com.apple.ProGL.object-deletion
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac425 _pthread_cond_wait + 698
2 com.apple.progl.framework 0x0000000107291097 (anonymous namespace)::threadFunc(void*) + 65
3 com.apple.procore.framework 0x0000000106ce95d9 PCThread::startup(void*) + 29
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 2:: ExtendedAudioFileScheduler::WorkerThreadProc
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac425 _pthread_cond_wait + 698
2 com.apple.music.apps.MAFiles 0x000000012f8cf82b ExtendedAudioFileScheduler::WorkerThreadProc() + 123
3 com.apple.music.apps.MAFiles 0x000000012f8cf7a9 ExtendedAudioFileScheduler::WorkerThreadProc(void*) + 9
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 3:: ExtendedAudioFileScheduler::WorkerThreadProc
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac425 _pthread_cond_wait + 698
2 com.apple.music.apps.MAFiles 0x000000012f8cf82b ExtendedAudioFileScheduler::WorkerThreadProc() + 123
3 com.apple.music.apps.MAFiles 0x000000012f8cf7a9 ExtendedAudioFileScheduler::WorkerThreadProc(void*) + 9
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 4:: com.apple.helium-texture-finish
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac425 _pthread_cond_wait + 698
2 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001075a0c64 TextureDeleteQueue::threadLoop() + 276
3 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001075a074d textureFinishThread(void*) + 29
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 5:: com.apple.helium-pools
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb756 __semwait_signal + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff73d6eeea nanosleep + 196
2 libc++.1.dylib 0x00007fff70fb26da std::__1::this_thread::sleep_for(std::__1::chrono::duration<long long, std::__1::ratio<1l, 1000000000l> > const&) + 73
3 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001075faee3 (anonymous namespace)::poolsObserverThreadFunction() + 51
4 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001075faff8 void* std::__1::__thread_proxy<std::__1::tuple<std::__1::unique_ptr<std::__1::__thread_struct, std::__1::default_delete<std::__1::__thread_struct> >, void (*)()> >(void*) + 40
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 6:: MIO Mounting Thread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac457 _pthread_cond_wait + 748
2 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff3c4b5896 -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 144
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff3c4b7c56 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 91
4 com.apple.proapps.MIO 0x0000000106ec05a3 -[PluginLockPair scanPaths] + 403
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff3c4d47a2 __NSThread__start__ + 1064
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 7:: MIO Mounting Thread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac457 _pthread_cond_wait + 748
2 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff3c4b5896 -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 144
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff3c4b7c56 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 91
4 com.apple.proapps.MIO 0x0000000106ec05a3 -[PluginLockPair scanPaths] + 403
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff3c4d47a2 __NSThread__start__ + 1064
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 8:: MIO Mounting Thread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac457 _pthread_cond_wait + 748
2 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff3c4b5896 -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 144
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff3c4b7c56 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 91
4 com.apple.proapps.MIO 0x0000000106ec05a3 -[PluginLockPair scanPaths] + 403
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff3c4d47a2 __NSThread__start__ + 1064
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 9:: MIO Mounting Thread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac457 _pthread_cond_wait + 748
2 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff3c4b5896 -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 144
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff3c4b7c56 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 91
4 com.apple.proapps.MIO 0x0000000106ec05a3 -[PluginLockPair scanPaths] + 403
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff3c4d47a2 __NSThread__start__ + 1064
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 10:: MIO Mounting Thread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac457 _pthread_cond_wait + 748
2 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff3c4b5896 -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 144
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff3c4b7c56 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 91
4 com.apple.proapps.MIO 0x0000000106ec05a3 -[PluginLockPair scanPaths] + 403
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff3c4d47a2 __NSThread__start__ + 1064
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 11:: MIO Mounting Thread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac457 _pthread_cond_wait + 748
2 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff3c4b5896 -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 144
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff3c4b7c56 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 91
4 com.apple.proapps.MIO 0x0000000106ec05a3 -[PluginLockPair scanPaths] + 403
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff3c4d47a2 __NSThread__start__ + 1064
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 12:: com.apple.helium.rq.gpu-ru0.vs0
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac425 _pthread_cond_wait + 698
2 com.apple.Helium 0x000000010774f903 HGSynchronizable::Wait() + 51
3 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001075cf2e8 HGRenderQueue::GetRenderJob(HGRenderExecUnit*, HGRenderJob**) + 408
4 com.apple.Helium 0x0000000107584aea HGRenderExecUnit::RunLoop() + 746
5 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001075847ee StartRenderExecUnitFunc(void*) + 14
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 13:: com.apple.helium.rq.gpu-ru1.vs0
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac425 _pthread_cond_wait + 698
2 com.apple.Helium 0x000000010774f903 HGSynchronizable::Wait() + 51
3 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001075cf2e8 HGRenderQueue::GetRenderJob(HGRenderExecUnit*, HGRenderJob**) + 408
4 com.apple.Helium 0x0000000107584aea HGRenderExecUnit::RunLoop() + 746
5 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001075847ee StartRenderExecUnitFunc(void*) + 14
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 14:: com.apple.helium.rq.rbu0.vs0
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac425 _pthread_cond_wait + 698
2 com.apple.Helium 0x000000010774f903 HGSynchronizable::Wait() + 51
3 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001075d2e5b HGRenderQueue::GetGPUReadbackJob(HGGPUReadbackExecUnit*, HGGPUReadbackJob**) + 75
4 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001076a9bde HGGPUReadbackExecUnit::RunLoop() + 190
5 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001076a9b0e StartGPUReadbackExecUnitFunc(void*) + 14
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 15:: com.apple.helium.rq.rbu1.vs0
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac425 _pthread_cond_wait + 698
2 com.apple.Helium 0x000000010774f903 HGSynchronizable::Wait() + 51
3 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001075d2e5b HGRenderQueue::GetGPUReadbackJob(HGGPUReadbackExecUnit*, HGGPUReadbackJob**) + 75
4 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001076a9bde HGGPUReadbackExecUnit::RunLoop() + 190
5 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001076a9b0e StartGPUReadbackExecUnitFunc(void*) + 14
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 16:: com.apple.helium.rq.cpu-ru2
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac425 _pthread_cond_wait + 698
2 com.apple.Helium 0x000000010774f903 HGSynchronizable::Wait() + 51
3 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001075cf2e8 HGRenderQueue::GetRenderJob(HGRenderExecUnit*, HGRenderJob**) + 408
4 com.apple.Helium 0x0000000107584aea HGRenderExecUnit::RunLoop() + 746
5 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001075847ee StartRenderExecUnitFunc(void*) + 14
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 17:: com.apple.helium.rq.cpu-ru3
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac425 _pthread_cond_wait + 698
2 com.apple.Helium 0x000000010774f903 HGSynchronizable::Wait() + 51
3 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001075cf2e8 HGRenderQueue::GetRenderJob(HGRenderExecUnit*, HGRenderJob**) + 408
4 com.apple.Helium 0x0000000107584aea HGRenderExecUnit::RunLoop() + 746
5 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001075847ee StartRenderExecUnitFunc(void*) + 14
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 18:: com.apple.NSEventThread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73de8dfa mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73de9170 mach_msg + 60
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff39e45f85 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 247
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff39e44a52 __CFRunLoopRun + 1319
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff39e43ece CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 462
5 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff3725c144 _NSEventThread + 132
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 19:: AMCP Logging Spool
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73de8e36 semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1 com.apple.audio.caulk 0x00007fff6d87cb16 caulk::mach::semaphore::wait() + 16
2 com.apple.audio.caulk 0x00007fff6d87c9b2 caulk::semaphore::timed_wait(double) + 106
3 com.apple.audio.caulk 0x00007fff6d87c7c4 caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread::run() + 30
4 com.apple.audio.caulk 0x00007fff6d87c1e4 void* caulk::thread_proxy<std::__1::tuple<caulk::thread::attributes, void (caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread::*)(), std::__1::tuple<caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread*> > >(void*) + 45
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 20:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73de8e36 semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1 com.apple.audio.caulk 0x00007fff6d87cb16 caulk::mach::semaphore::wait() + 16
2 com.apple.audio.caulk 0x00007fff6d87c9b2 caulk::semaphore::timed_wait(double) + 106
3 com.apple.audio.caulk 0x00007fff6d87c7c4 caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread::run() + 30
4 com.apple.audio.caulk 0x00007fff6d87c1e4 void* caulk::thread_proxy<std::__1::tuple<caulk::thread::attributes, void (caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread::*)(), std::__1::tuple<caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread*> > >(void*) + 45
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 21:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.flexo.FFSharedAudioUnitPoolUpdateQueue
0 libvDSP.dylib 0x00007fff36c34fd5 0x7fff36c34000 + 4053

Thread 22:
0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b68 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 23:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.root.default-qos.overcommit
0 libobjc.A.dylib 0x00007fff72af5794 objc_destructInstance + 18
1 com.apple.CoreData 0x00007fff398b5b52 _PFDeallocateObject + 34
2 com.apple.CoreData 0x00007fff39a05919 _deallocateSQLRowCacheOnBackgroundThread + 201
3 com.apple.CoreData 0x00007fff398fe668 minion_duties2 + 72
4 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c4e658 _dispatch_client_callout + 8
5 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c504b0 _dispatch_queue_override_invoke + 763
6 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c5c957 _dispatch_root_queue_drain + 326
7 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c5d097 _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 92
8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea89f7 _pthread_wqthread + 220
9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b77 start_wqthread + 15

Thread 24:
0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b68 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 25:
0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b68 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 26:: com.apple.helium-unit.2.0
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac425 _pthread_cond_wait + 698
2 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001077006ab hg_pthread_loop(void*) + 203
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 27:: com.apple.helium-unit.2.1
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac425 _pthread_cond_wait + 698
2 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001077006ab hg_pthread_loop(void*) + 203
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 28:: com.apple.helium-unit.2.2
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac425 _pthread_cond_wait + 698
2 com.apple.Helium 0x00000001077006ab hg_pthread_loop(void*) + 203
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 29:: com.apple.flexo.worker-queue-thread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73de8e36 semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1 com.apple.Flexo 0x00000001087954b8 WorkerThread::Run() + 392
2 com.apple.Flexo 0x00000001086ef93f Thread::RunHelper(void*) + 47
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 30:: com.apple.coremedia.imagequeue.coreanimation.common
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac425 _pthread_cond_wait + 698
2 com.apple.CoreMedia 0x00007fff3b000925 WaitOnConditionTimed + 92
3 com.apple.CoreMedia 0x00007fff3afeb218 FigSemaphoreWaitRelative + 152
4 com.apple.MediaToolbox 0x00007fff3eee14f9 0x7fff3ebe8000 + 3118329
5 com.apple.CoreMedia 0x00007fff3b0005c3 figThreadMain + 276
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 31:: com.apple.coremedia.videomediaconverter
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb882 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac425 _pthread_cond_wait + 698
2 com.apple.CoreMedia 0x00007fff3b001b37 WaitOnCondition + 11
3 com.apple.CoreMedia 0x00007fff3afeb211 FigSemaphoreWaitRelative + 145
4 com.apple.MediaToolbox 0x00007fff3eedfce1 0x7fff3ebe8000 + 3112161
5 com.apple.CoreMedia 0x00007fff3b0005c3 figThreadMain + 276
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 32:: ReverbThread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb756 __semwait_signal + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff73d6eeea nanosleep + 196
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff73d6ede4 usleep + 53
3 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar3 0x0000000166e4647a 0x1663b3000 + 11089018
4 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar3 0x0000000166697b59 0x1663b3000 + 3033945
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 33:: ReverbThread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb756 __semwait_signal + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff73d6eeea nanosleep + 196
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff73d6ede4 usleep + 53
3 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar3 0x0000000166e4647a 0x1663b3000 + 11089018
4 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar3 0x0000000166697b59 0x1663b3000 + 3033945
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 34:: ReverbThread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb756 __semwait_signal + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff73d6eeea nanosleep + 196
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff73d6ede4 usleep + 53
3 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar3 0x0000000166e4647a 0x1663b3000 + 11089018
4 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar3 0x0000000166697b59 0x1663b3000 + 3033945
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 35:: SamplerThread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73de8e36 semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1 com.redgiant.universe.framework 0x0000000187eebcf8 v8::internal::MacOSSemaphore::Wait() + 24
2 com.redgiant.universe.framework 0x0000000187dc13c5 v8::internal::RuntimeProfilerRateLimiter::SuspendIfNecessary() + 133
3 com.redgiant.universe.framework 0x0000000187eebfe7 v8::internal::SamplerThread::Run() + 71
4 com.redgiant.universe.framework 0x0000000187eeabfc v8::internal::ThreadEntry(void*) + 76
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 36:
0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b68 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 37:
0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b68 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 38:: ReverbThread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb756 __semwait_signal + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff73d6eeea nanosleep + 196
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff73d6ede4 usleep + 53
3 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar3 0x0000000166e4647a 0x1663b3000 + 11089018
4 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar3 0x0000000166697b59 0x1663b3000 + 3033945
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 39:: ReverbThread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb756 __semwait_signal + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff73d6eeea nanosleep + 196
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff73d6ede4 usleep + 53
3 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar3 0x0000000166e4647a 0x1663b3000 + 11089018
4 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar3 0x0000000166697b59 0x1663b3000 + 3033945
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 40:
0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b68 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 41:: ReverbThread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb756 __semwait_signal + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff73d6eeea nanosleep + 196
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff73d6ede4 usleep + 53
3 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar3 0x0000000166e4647a 0x1663b3000 + 11089018
4 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar3 0x0000000166697b59 0x1663b3000 + 3033945
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 42:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73de8e4e semaphore_timedwait_trap + 10
1 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c4eb6b _dispatch_sema4_timedwait + 76
2 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c4ef97 _dispatch_semaphore_wait_slow + 58
3 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c5c795 _dispatch_worker_thread + 284
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 43:: ReverbThread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73deb756 __semwait_signal + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff73d6eeea nanosleep + 196
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff73d6ede4 usleep + 53
3 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar3 0x0000000166e4647a 0x1663b3000 + 11089018
4 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar3 0x0000000166697b59 0x1663b3000 + 3033945
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 44:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff73de8e4e semaphore_timedwait_trap + 10
1 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c4eb6b _dispatch_sema4_timedwait + 76
2 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c4ef97 _dispatch_semaphore_wait_slow + 58
3 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff73c5c795 _dispatch_worker_thread + 284
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73eac109 _pthread_start + 148
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff73ea7b8b thread_start + 15

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
rax: 0x0000000000000000 rbx: 0x0000000107526dc0 rcx: 0x00007ffee90f8b98 rdx: 0x0000000000000000
rdi: 0x0000000000000307 rsi: 0x0000000000000006 rbp: 0x00007ffee90f8bc0 rsp: 0x00007ffee90f8b98
r8: 0x0000000000001800 r9: 0x00007f93fbac18ee r10: 0x0000000107526dc0 r11: 0x0000000000000246
r12: 0x0000000000000307 r13: 0xffffffff7fffffff r14: 0x0000000000000006 r15: 0x0000000000000016
rip: 0x00007fff73def33a rfl: 0x0000000000000246 cr2: 0x000000010a985f83

Logical CPU: 0
Error Code: 0x02000148
Trap Number: 133


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FCPX Crashes, freezes, kernel Panic... All of them 24 Jun 2020 05:21 #108147

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Reply 22 junio

First of all, you guys are amazing!
Such a huge source of information (that I’m trying to assimilate) and willingness, definitely a good learning here, even though after only 2 months editing for the first time, it’s quite frustrating not being able to let creativity flow and spend 10 days trying to solve this).

Every step takes me a few hours while researching and learning about the new concept to know what I’m doing, fighting with the slowness of the Mac, installing the new apps, doing some other stuff at the same time, allowing some procrastination on the way… ;)

I tried to start doing all this in a more scientific way and noting things, keeping my own log, but lost my track a little bit with so much information…

So I’m just gonna update a list of doubts I have and then a list of things done and left to do.

Note that today it keeps hanging and freezing sometimes, but no KP’s so far…
Maybe deleting the 3rd party kernels helped? Maybe I haven’t ran the exact process that was causing it…
Though I’ve been using FCPX with other apps running, even Firefox (which always seemed to be the most RAM usage conflicting)

- Is there a chance that having enabled server performance mode has done anything bad ?
- Trying to understand what amount of swap memory is too much (etrecheck). It was 0 yesterday, it’s been growing, now at 1GB.
But this seems cumulative, not in real time… I can’t see anywhere the “number” of swaps, only the used space. What is too much, I haven’t found anything about it, everyone only says, if there are too many swaps, something’s wrong.
- Deleted ALL generated files this time at once on this specific library
- Changed the File system of my external Drive to APFS
- I’ve deleted all 3rd part kernels but why would they start giving troubles now when they’ve been working fine for 2 months after installing? LuLu has been running 100 % of the time.
- If I start a new project, why is FCPX keep hanging and being slow (beachball) if I don’t really have many plugins?
- Is FCPX super slow only by having a lot of plugins installed even if not using them?
- The whole idea of retaking this big library was to try and work with Proxy files to see if I could avoid all these slownesses… Way are there clip I can’t transcode to Proxy? Some only allow me to transcode to optimised!


List of things done (probably not thorough):

- Enabled performance mode
- Deleted 3rd party kernels (LuLu and NTFS)
- Ran diagnostics
- Ran safe mode
- Ran etrecheck
- Ran disk utility first aid from recovery mode on all drives
- Changed the File system of my external Drive to APFS
- Reinstalled FCPX
- Trashed Preferences
- Deleted all generated files in library
- Resetting SMC
- Reinstalled provideoformats 2.1.1

- Running memtest tonight

Things to do:

- Reinstalling Catalina
- Trying in a different user
- Check HEVC files and transcode
- Booting from an external OS

I can also read the system log in that weird folder on my desktop:

www.dropbox.com/s/zy6f5rrtie744b2/system...6-21-094713.log?dl=0

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FCPX Crashes, freezes, kernel Panic... All of them 24 Jun 2020 11:12 #108153

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It’s created when preferences are reset. Try a n admin user. If not do a clean install with only user migration.

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Free wrote: - Is there a chance that having enabled server performance mode has done anything bad ?
- Trying to understand what amount of swap memory is too much (etrecheck).
- I’ve deleted all 3rd part kernels but why would they start giving troubles now when they’ve been working fine for 2 months after installing? LuLu has been running 100 % of the time.
- If I start a new project, why is FCPX keep hanging and being slow (beachball) if I don’t really have many plugins?
- Is FCPX super slow only by having a lot of plugins installed even if not using them?
- The whole idea of retaking this big library was to try and work with Proxy files to see if I could avoid all these slownesses… Way are there clip I can’t transcode to Proxy? Some only allow me to transcode to optimised...


You've taken a lot of methodical steps. Thanks for being persistent. You must be patient and continue, even though it is frustrating.

Do not make changes like server performance mode. That is unlikely to help and it introduces additional complications.

Use Activity Monitor's memory tab to check memory. If the memory pressure graph is green, your memory situation is generally OK.

Deleting 3rd party kernel extensions is a normal troubleshooting procedure if you're having kernel panics. If software that once worked OK would never crash, then we'd never have crashes. Software is extremely complex and the underlying internal state cannot be easily perceived. An airplane can have a design defect, yet fly for years before it crashes.

You have a lot of plugins installed, apparently including CoreMelt. While removing plugins from the timeline is a first troubleshooting step, they can still affect FCPX stability even if not used in a timeline. This is an unfortunate aspect of current FCPX plugin design. There is no FCPX "safe launch mode" which disables all plugin code. Plugins run within the FCPX memory space and any bug by any plugin can hang or crash FCPX. This will hopefully be fixed in the upcoming version of FxPlug 4 framework, but that is in the future.

The FCPX plugin ecosystem is also burdened by lack of consistency. There is no single standardized method of fully removing them. In some cases you must contact each plugin vendor to get "clean removal" utilities, which may not even be publicized. Just determining the version no. of the plugin can be difficult. Unlike MacOS which specifies all Mac apps have the "About" menu that states the version, there is no such consistency for FCPX plugins. For all these reasons, do not install FCPX plugins in a cavalier manner. Use only plugins from respected companies with good support. Make sure all plugins are updated to the latest version. If you end up not using a plugin, fully de-install it.

If you have FxFactory (like an App Store for plugins), you can run that and do Actions>Show FxPlug Plug-ins in Finder. If you don't have FxFactory just go there in Finder, which is /Library/Plug-Ins/FxPlug. Examine those and remove old or unused ones. See this Larry Jordan article. If anyone else has alternate suggestions on how to reliably remove plugins, please speak up: larryjordan.com/articles/how-to-remove-p...rom-final-cut-pro-x/

That said, a normal troubleshooting step is making a snapshot duplicate of the project, selecting all timeline clips with CMD+A, then remove all effects with Edit>Remove Effects, then examine behavior and see if the problem still happens. If yes, repeat that but do 1/2, then 1/4, etc. of the timeline until you find the problematic effect.

If the problem happens with no effects (as you imply by just creating a project), it could be a memory-resident effect or a lower-level system problem. The fact you're having many MacOS total system hangs and kernel panics imply there's a lower-level problem which cannot be fixed at the application level. Even if it doesn't hang or crash *today* doesn't mean that problem is gone.

Be double-certain that you aren't using Chrome or any browser based on Chrome, such as Brave, Vivaldi, etc. This is known to destabilize FCPX but it should not crash or hang MacOS.

If you cannot transcode clips to proxy that is abnormal. If the option is greyed out that implies proxies already exist or there's an FCPX database glitch. There is an FCPX data management bug which can cause this when copying clips or projects between libraries and if you answer "no" to the copy proxy dialog. That will disable ability to create proxies in the new library for those clips. The solution is delete all proxies (even if none exist), then re-launch FCPX, which should restore the ability to create proxies.

Starting with Catalina there are some disk permissions issues that can effect FCPX if using a designated storage location for media (inc'l proxies) and cache. In the library inspector if you do Storage Locations>Modify Settings>Media (or Cache), then try to create a new folder, FCPX can hang. The workaround is first create the folder in Finder, do Get Info, scroll down to Sharing and Permissions, unlock it, and grant read & write to user "everyone", then click the gear icon and select "apply to enclosed items". Only then use FCPX Storage Locations>Modify Settings.

Specific comments on your FCPX crash log:

- The crashing thread was thread #0. Note any thread in a multi-threaded process can crash the entire process. All threads have full access to memory. 3rd party plugins run as threads within the FCPX process.
- The crash involved" 'rateConformEffect' on invalid proxy object". This might be related to your inability to create proxies, possibly the previously-mentioned database issue. Delete all proxies and all optimized media, re-launch FCPX and try to re-create proxies. If not possible, state the exact behavior you're seeing.

The call stack of the crashing thread indicate the Event Browser was in filmstrip mode, a mouse drag event happened, a slide-back animation was triggered (probably normal FCPX UI), a share lock was requested (locks are used to coordinate activity between multiple threads), then an exception was encountered, maybe involving a Motion effect, then the exception handler kicked in to produce the crash log.

There are references to OZFxPlugTimingAPI. Ozone is apparently the Apple Motion render engine.

Keep in mind there are two separate problem layers. The system layer involving MacOS hangs or kernel panics, which cannot be fixed at the app layer. Then the app layer issues involving FCPX crashes which can be caused by system layer issues but sometimes we can reduce the frequency by following that trail.

It currently makes sense to pursue the proxy issue, review (and maybe remove) plugins. Then re-examine the FCPX behavior. If still a problem do the above test about a duplicate snapshot and remove all Fx from the timeline, then examine & manipulate that and observe behavior.

If none of that works you may have to back up your data, wipe the machine and do a clean MacOs install, then re-install FCPX but no plugins or only a highly curated set of plugins.

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FCPX Crashes, freezes, kernel Panic... All of them 27 Jun 2020 04:48 #108236

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So... Back into bussiness.

I decided to erase the computer and start over fresh.
New last Catalina 10.15.5.
FCPX 10.4.8
Logic 10.5.1

Spent last 3 days reinstalling everything, all my regular apps, but way less, got rid of what I wasn't using and haven't even installed any Adobde product yet.
It's still quite a bunch of apps.

We gotta remember that I ran disk utility from recovery, Rember for RAM, diagnostics and everything looked fine.

No 3rd party kernels, no server performance mode, no chrome or any derivates...
No nothing.

App seemed to work fine at this stage.
Installed ONLY FXFactory plugins from the manager, therefore, all up to date, none is discontinued. Half way through the installation, it still seemed to work fine, though only tried to open it and go through the FX lightly.

I did install a bunch of AU though, including, but not only, Izotope ones that did give me a little headache on install and had to reboot to have them working.
(I even had two of the installers staying forever on the dock, and actually had to press long the ON button to be able to restart the machine and get rid of them)
Could AU give problems to FCPX? BTW, those specific Izotope plugins weren't installed in my previous OS.

I still haven't open ANY previous library, only the untitled one that opens automatically, zero projects in it, zero plugins nor media in use....

FCPX crashed twice already, takes long to open and hangs way too often...
Logic seems to operate fine. Finder does hang a little sometimes.
Everything else seems fine so far...
I have uninstall FCPX with FCS Remover, reinstalled it... Same.

Here is the only crash report I've managed to get:

www.dropbox.com/s/f6qvv1pcu85x2k4/fcpx%2...2026%20june.rtf?dl=0

I think I'm gonna need to give up on video editing for a while, it's been over two weeks trying ONLY to solve this and my creative mojo has gone long time ago. I might get a newer computer later this year or the next one and try to start over again and hopefully I'll be luckier then.

I might tomorrow try to run it from a different user see if anything changes there.
Or something...

Could it be one of the FXFactory plugins instead?

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FCPX Crashes, freezes, kernel Panic... All of them 27 Jun 2020 11:38 #108256

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Free wrote: I decided to erase the computer and start over fresh.
New last Catalina 10.15.5.
FCPX 10.4.8
Logic 10.5.1
No 3rd party kernels, no server performance mode, no chrome or any derivates...
I did install a bunch of AU though, including, but not only, Izotope ones that did give me a little headache on install and had to reboot to have them working....
Could it be one of the FXFactory plugins instead?


Well, those are interesting results. You have been very persistent, and I'm sorry about the continuing problems. Almost any plugin can crash or hang FCPX. The only 3rd-party audio plugins I have are from RX7 Advanced and I never use them, always use the stand-alone app.

Your last crash log implies FCPX crashed during a file manager call when attempting to create a directory (aka folder). There are known issues with Catalina permissions which some apps don't handle correctly, including FCPX.

Go to System Preferences>Security & Privacy>Full Disk Access, and make sure FCPX is enabled for that.

However even IF that is enabled, FCPX can nonetheless hang if trying to create a folder while in the library inspector>Storage Locations>Modify Settings>Media (or Cache)>Choose, and you try to create a new folder.

The workaround for that is first create that folder in Finder, then use Get Info>Sharing & Permissions, unlock it, and grant Read & Write to group "everyone", then click the gear icon and pick "apply to enclosed items".

That seems to prevent FCPX from hanging in that one case. But there may be other scenarios (maybe driven by an plugin) where FCPX tries to create a folder and crashes or hangs for similar reasons.

As a test you could try granting "everyone" Read & Write on all files on all hard drives. This might diminish some protections against malware, but it's only a test. If it doesn't immediately help you can restore the settings.

If you think it might be the FxFactory plugins, you could use the below tutorial for uninstalling it - just as a test. In general I've had good results from FxFactory support, so don't hesitate to contact them.

If experimentally removing FxFactory and making the above disk permissions changes don't help, another option is to re-install MacOS from scratch using Mojave. You can get that here: You can get Mojave here: support.apple.com/en-us/HT210190

Uninstalling FxFactory:

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FCPX Crashes, freezes, kernel Panic... All of them 27 Jun 2020 17:18 #108265

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Thanks a lot for your sustained support, it's important to me. Really.
I am about to give up this time for real. I should be enjoying life and getting ready to do some other stuff aswell! :)

Nevertheless, I guess I'll try to uninstall FXFactory, AUs and start over again with it.
Though I feel that the installation of my Izotope plugins was way too weird and suspect them even more...

Just to be clear, I have not even opened a library, so haven't actually used any of the plugins. But I think it was clear. I guess that plugins can crash or hang FCPX even if not in use.

So I guess you say that any plugin can hang FCPX, including AUs...
But I do need those to work with Logic Pro.
Is there a way to deactivate them only for FCPX?
Or at least a way to do so when working with FCPX and reactivate them when opening Logic?

I think everything was working quite well before installing FCPX and the plugins.
Even half way through FXFactory plugins installation, it was wroking OK at first glance.
But did go too fast and tried to install all the AU at the same time of completing the FXFactory plugins download.

What I forgot to mention yestarday is that at that moment, it did crash twice, hanged quite consistently but also done soemthing that never happened before:
At opening, FCPX just froze before being able to do anything but without the beach ball, not allowing to touch anything without the "Funk" sound that the syste uses to let you know you can't click there... AND there was a small kinda selection blue box in the effect/transition area (that might just be how it froze) But it happened at least 2 times in this exact same way, besides beachball haning and the 2 complete crashes (both on opening, not running any process).

I'm also having smaller hangs on other moments, such as opening Firefox and troubles connecting with my VPN... Not sure it's related though.

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