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Which is the best DSLR for video?

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25 Mar 2013 08:32 #23079 by FvH
FWIW: My current favorite combo is the Canon 5DM3 with the Rokinon f1.5 35mm glass ( www.rokinon.com/product.php?id=202 ). In Central Europe it is marketed under the Walimex brand, I think. Really great lens for a price below 500 EUR.
As for the camera: The 5DM3 just produces the images I am looking for (and I mostly do corporate/advertising and music videos. With a decent audio adapter, e.g., a BeachTek DSA-XLR Pro, you can record on the 5DM3 with Phantom-powered mics. And, of course, we are all waiting for April's firmware update which will allow us to export the sensor signal directly via HDMI to an external recording device, so that we don't need to use the compressed H.264 4.2.0 files from the card.

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25 Mar 2013 08:45 #23080 by Karsten Schlüter

FvH wrote: … In Central Europe it is marketed under …


Rokinon = Walimex = Samyang …

this glass has many faces :silly:

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25 Mar 2013 10:40 #23082 by waternyc
AWESOME responses. Exactly what I'm looking for - everyone's personal 2¢.

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25 Mar 2013 11:10 #23087 by simonpwood
I also have a set of Rokinon Cine lenses (14mm, 24mm, 35mm, & 85mm) - I really like them. I have them in EF mount, so I use them on the 5Dmk3 & T3i - they colour match well.
They are also available in all the other mounts too.

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25 Mar 2013 11:12 #23088 by waternyc
Do they have any deficiencies when used on the Canon camera, like no auto focus, to loud mechanics, or loss of auto functions....????

Does that cause any extra problems or things that one must worry about when shooting video?

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25 Mar 2013 11:14 #23089 by TrixTrax9000
Or maybe ... when BlackMagic becomes full frame, nobody will want DSLR's anymore?

:)

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25 Mar 2013 11:19 #23090 by simonpwood

waternyc wrote: Do they have any deficiencies when used on the Canon camera, like no auto focus, to loud mechanics, or loss of auto functions....????

Does that cause any extra problems or things that one must worry about when shooting video?


They are full manual lenses; no motors and no auto-focus. The aperture (T-stops) is controlled by a dial on the lens barrel (not controlled through the camera as with Canon lenses).

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25 Mar 2013 11:23 #23091 by simonpwood

TrixTrax9000 wrote: Or maybe ... when BlackMagic becomes full frame, nobody will want DSLR's anymore?

:)


Sheesh. We'll have to wait for BM to actually start shifting the current model first; there are still large delays and the stock is only dribbling out.

But yeah; if they ever got a hold of a FF sensor (or even a APS sensor) it would be game-over for DSLR's as we know them today.

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25 Mar 2013 15:35 #23095 by fcpguru
That's great to hear good things about rokinon - def thinking about picking up a set, but have to also afford some kind of stablizing rig since I find non is lenses pretty much unusable without one. Too much jello.

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25 Mar 2013 17:38 #23105 by waternyc
OK, why not just get a NEX-VG900 then. Is the Mk3 better?

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25 Mar 2013 18:04 - 25 Mar 2013 18:06 #23106 by simonpwood

waternyc wrote: OK, why not just get a NEX-VG900 then. Is the Mk3 better?


Aliasing & Moire? I have heard the Sony DSLR's are still having issues. Its practically gone with the Mk3.

Th Sony 'look' does not seem to have the out-of-the-box Canon 'mojo' that the average person seems to like.

The 5D name has a brand quality that people (outside of the business) seem to know about. Lots of people ask "Are we filming with a 5D". There is an instant brand recognition there that can be helpful when dealing with customers.

Still; I am biased. I like Canons, though I have used the GH2 quite a bit and also rent Sony cameras regularly (I recently rented the FS700 - great slow-motion but it still has the Sony video look).
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25 Mar 2013 19:03 #23109 by TrixTrax9000

simonpwood wrote:

TrixTrax9000 wrote: Or maybe ... when BlackMagic becomes full frame, nobody will want DSLR's anymore?

:)


Sheesh. We'll have to wait for BM to actually start shifting the current model first; there are still large delays and the stock is only dribbling out.

But yeah; if they ever got a hold of a FF sensor (or even a APS sensor) it would be game-over for DSLR's as we know them today.

Hmm... well I notice Larry Jordan mentions them frequently. Perhaps if we all start mentioning them more often they can move more product so we can all move up to the next level.

There's nothing quite as exciting as a genuine game changer.

:cheer:

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26 Mar 2013 19:09 #23145 by TrixTrax9000
Another contender stepped into the ring, Leica's New Full-Frame Mirrorless Camera has entered the fray...

nofilmschool.com/2013/03/leica-m-full-fr...chool+(NoFilmSchool)

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26 Mar 2013 20:06 #23152 by waternyc
Yeah, I saw that Leica. What of it? Whats it to become? Can it pull of the job?

I do know one thing, we'll look really damn cool shooting gigs with that thing......

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27 Mar 2013 08:32 #23178 by simonpwood
Look at the price of that Leica; $7,000! If you think the camera is overpriced, wait till you see the price of Leica lenses. Ouch!

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27 Mar 2013 19:03 #23205 by waternyc
that surely doesnt make it worth it, unless you just want to look cool......

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27 Mar 2013 19:20 #23208 by TrixTrax9000
Good point. How often we underestimate the true value of looking cool.

:cheer:

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27 Mar 2013 19:29 - 27 Mar 2013 19:30 #23210 by waternyc
TrixTrax9000, that may just be why you got the job and the other guy didn't.... :evil: haha B) B) B) B) B) B) B)
Last edit: 27 Mar 2013 19:30 by waternyc. Reason: had to add the cool faces.

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08 Apr 2013 09:23 #24005 by simonpwood

simonpwood wrote:

TrixTrax9000 wrote: Or maybe ... when BlackMagic becomes full frame, nobody will want DSLR's anymore?

:)


Sheesh. We'll have to wait for BM to actually start shifting the current model first; there are still large delays and the stock is only dribbling out.

But yeah; if they ever got a hold of a FF sensor (or even a APS sensor) it would be game-over for DSLR's as we know them today.

I quote myself above, because as of today BM will announce a Cinema Camera with an S35 sensor (APS size approximately), with 4K RAW (and compressed RAW) for $4,000!

Game changer!

Next step will be RED filing lawsuits against them; mark my words!

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