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Patrice Freymond replied to the topic 'Batch upgrading Motion 4 templates to Motion 5' in the forum. 2 years ago

Thank you !

will look into it and let you know.
Patrice
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Patrice Freymond replied to the topic 'Batch upgrading Motion 4 templates to Motion 5' in the forum. 2 years ago

Karsten, es tut mir leid dass mein deutsch nicht gut genug ist um dir auf deine sprache zu beantworten (and no, this is not some cheap google translate or expensive but obscure software, it is just me, mistakes included :( ) But I guess we both have good enough english to survive this.

I thought I had averted getting myself and any responder in a hole by starting my first message with : "for reasons that I won't get into" or something like that. Well, I tried, didn't I ? So here is the in depth explaination (you asked for it now buckle up).

Automotion generated Motion TITLES compatible with FCPX, not "slides" that you could produce on Photoshop. And it did that on a laptop devoid of either Motion or FCPX (or FCP7). All you needed was 1) one or several title templates made in Motion 2) the content of your titles neatly lined up in a spreadsheet (and I believe it was ok with CSV too). Once you matched the fields of your spreadsheet with the fields of your Motion template (i.e Name, Surname, Function, or whatever name you had given the templates text layers), it could batch export Motion titles.

An entire show's titles could be generated within minutes, with alternatives such as left or right or different coloured lower thirds etc. Once you placed this in the local Motion templates folder they would appear in the title browser of fcpx ready for use by the editor. If there was, god forbid, any mispelling, the editor could edit the title directly in FCPX.
Where Automotion shined was also that once you'd done this first export, if the operator (as in Chyron operator?) had mistakenly chosen the wrong templates, it took a few minutes to redo a new export with the right ones, because we had a standardized way of building and naming templates.

In short, the 495USD you paid for Automotion was for the thousands you saved in not having an editor + editroom sit there TYPING or CUT AND PASTING titles for hours on end. I hope this longish explanation helps in understanding the value of this tool.

Now remember that with older versions of Motion there were no distinctions with the files it produced, they were all motion projects. Moving to FCPX categories were introduced so a Title was recognizable as such by FCPX and would place above all else in your timeline automatically. We could still use Automotion though, as long as we created the (.motn) templates in Motion 4 and then, prior to dropping them in the Motion Templates folder, changed their extension to .moti. It worked.
Motion 5 changed that and changing the extensions (easily automatized) is not enough anymore. Now we need to open and save each title individually. Time consuming, annoying and not the best use of an editor/edit room time. Hence my search for a solution to automatize the process. (or find an alternative).

With a few exceptions all our lower thirds can be generated in Motion 4 and that is one of the reason we'd like to keep batch producing them using Automotion + some automatized way of converting the titles.

Another way I would like to explore is to determine what is actually different between the Motion 4 title and the Motion 5 title. Maybe a simple search and replace function could "clean" the original one ? How does one open a template or title in order to see its content/ Is it xml? fcpxml? I am sure somebody here knows (you Karsten?).

Apologies for boring the hell out of those who attempted to read all this, but if you stayed and have some ideas please share. Oh and it does not matter where you are from or if you enjoy wearing pointy helmets, to each his own :)

thanks

Patrice
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Patrice Freymond replied to the topic 'Batch upgrading Motion 4 templates to Motion 5' in the forum. 2 years ago

no offence taken Karsten, but to be clear:

- the whole point of using this workflow, however old it may appear to be, is to have someone produce ready to use titles not using either Motion OR FCPX.

- thank you for pointing me to the text-from-file function; I will have a look into it to see if it could replace, even partially, the current workflow.

- thank you for your help

P.
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Patrice Freymond replied to the topic 'Batch upgrading Motion 4 templates to Motion 5' in the forum. 2 years ago

Hi Ben,

the issue maybe that when Motion opens the template you get two choices, one to save as copy and one to convert the original. I'd like to avoid the save as copy which is... the default proposition.

These are titles that are generated using Automotion, a great software that made generatingtemplate-based titles from a spreadsheet fairly automatic. Unfortunately this was not developped further after FCPX and the updated Motion came into play. The great advantage of using Automotion was that you could teach it in 15 minutes and have someone generate tons of tiles in minutes. I dream of someone creating something like this for Motion 5...
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Patrice Freymond created a new topic ' Batch upgrading Motion 4 templates to Motion 5' in the forum. 2 years ago

Hi,

for reasons I won't go into I have over 100 Motion templates originated in Motion 4 to upgrade to Motion 5.

Upgrading is usually done by opening a template in Motion 5 and re-saving it either replacing the original or as a duplicate. This work great to do manually for a few templates, but for over 100?

I've been thinking of automating this with Automator but can't see how ( I have very basic automator skills). Maybe an Apple script could do that too? ... and I don't have skills in command line. And I have limited time to make this work... of course. But I am very open to learning :)

Any help is welcome

Patrice
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Patrice Freymond replied to the topic 'Relink issues' in the forum. 3 years ago

Hi,

getting rid of the camera backups from that volume seems to have done the trick as the client was able to then relink to the files previously consolidated in the media folder.

I realise that this was a sketchy demand as I had not witnessed the whole disaster but I did my best in conveying what had happened. Always difficult to understand what process peolple have used, specially when they are not used to fcp x and mke assumptions based on previous nle's.

Thanks for the help.

P.
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Patrice Freymond replied to the topic 'Relink issues' in the forum. 3 years ago

What Ronny said is a good suggestion.

Agreed, it is the first thing I'll try when I get my hands back on the stuff.

I don't understand why relinking to the files FCPX copied to the MEDIA folder didn't work.

Neither do I. I thought it would work. I think that somehow FCPX gets confused by the fact that the import was a folder on a disk (enabling leave files in place - which is what I think the client did) but that it contained Card like subfolders....


....there is any possibility the drive volume name has changed, you could rename the volume to match the original name and try relink again.

I'll have to aask about that.

Re "relink failed", if you pick a *single* file and try to relink that, FCPX will tell you why the relink failed. I suggest doing that for a few individual files and take a screen capture of each error message. That could help diagnose what's going wrong.

A few of the files actually relinked but with problems: shots edited from those clips all had their IN point as the first frame of the clip. In other words the clip was correct but not the TC...


THANK YOU for the help, both of you. I will keep you posted on how we progress with this.

Patrice
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Patrice Freymond created a new topic ' Relink issues' in the forum. 3 years ago

Hi everyone,

I've searched before asking but did not find anything similar to this:

Client copied his SD cards to internal hard drive of his MBP. The cards are copied inside a folder, not at root level.
He then imported the footage, selecting the uppermost folder containing the three cards, with "Leave in place" option. It worked for him and he started editing.

The next time he opened all those files were offline with a "Camera Missing" message. He chose to select all and simply Import again, pointing again at the folder containing the card backups. File became relinked....until the next time etc.
He finished the edit and went for sharing, at which point FCPX refused to export, mentioning media being on camera cards aor something like this.

Then he called me for help.

Because the media was on his internal drive I created a MEDIA and CACHE folders on an external drive, and with all files linked Consolidated the lot to the external drive, hoping that it would solve the problem. But no. Files are still offline. Trying to relink them to the files FCPX copied in the MEDIA folder does not work.

Has anybody had to deal with something like this before?

Thanks
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Patrice Freymond replied to the topic 'audio routing issue' in the forum. 3 years ago

Hi everyone,
thought I would update this thread for whatever it is worth: turns out that the MacPro had a faulty audio board after all. Everything works after this was fixed.

P.
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Patrice Freymond replied to the topic 'audio routing issue' in the forum. 4 years ago

Hi everyone,

had a further look at the issue today and here's what I found:

- Creating a new library with a new project and new clips does not change the situation
- Turns out that not only FCPX is affected but all sound producing software
- Suspecting a bad account I created a new admin account, to no avail
- in the Audio Midi utility when clicking on the speakers (which usually produces a sound that helps in confirming your setup) I get ear-scratching noises but no clear sound)
- apparently only line out and headphones out are affected, internal speaker ok
- I did not have time to do a clean install on this mac but I am leaning towards a hardware issue but not entirely ruling out MacOS install
- Unfortunately Apple Hardware Dignostic does not launch on this machine, wether locally or internet (D or Alt-D at Launch)

What do you think?

Patrice
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Patrice Freymond replied to the topic 'audio routing issue' in the forum. 4 years ago

Hi Ronny,

yep, been there, though the MIDI panel in Sierra does not say Multichannel anymore but offers Stereo or Surrround 2.0.

Client does not have an audio device, this is trying to connect straight from Line level out (speaker icon) and the same happens on the headphones out.

I'll look into into further tomorrow and keep you posted.

Patrice
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Patrice Freymond created a new topic ' audio routing issue' in the forum. 4 years ago

Hi everyone,
client has two MacPros one they installed out of the box, one I clean installed. One the one they installed I have an issue with audio routing from FCPX: Any clip that is flagged as Mono is not routed to the audio out but shows on FCPX meters. Any stereo clip is routed on the mac's audio ports.
If I turn a dual mono clip into a stereo one I can hear it. If I activate the Pan stereo on a mono clip and pan either left or right i can hear it. middle position is dead.

MacPro is on Sierra and I looked into the MIDI settings which look ok. Furthermore if I import the xml from this library onto my MacPro everything is ok.

I hesitate to do a clean install (I HAVE had bad factory OS installs in the past) if there is an easier solution or if it proves to be something with the hardware.

Any help is welcome

Patrice
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Patrice Freymond replied to the topic 'fcpxml warnings' in the forum. 4 years ago

For whatever it is worth, this project held an uncommon number of compound clips containing complex edited sequences of length up to 8 minutes...

After breaking most of those and re-exporting to xml 1.5 the project now opens on the machine it initially crashed on...

P.
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Patrice Freymond created a new topic ' fcpxml warnings' in the forum. 4 years ago

Hello everyone,

trying to help a friend with a documentary project that has gone through various fcpx versions for various reasons and now ends up being difficult in 10.3 and crashing.

I asked for an fcpxml version 1.5 export of the main project and upon importing it in 10.3 i get a warning message containing mostly referneces to weird TC values but also to edits not happening on frame bondaries. The warning tells me to try and clean the fcpxml but I do not know how to do that.

If I continue the import the project is displayed in the tmeline and does not crash fcpx.

(Bear in mind that I do not have the media)

Thanks for any pointers at a solution !


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Patrice Freymond replied to the topic 'Object.Text - Calling on the linking experts !' in the forum. 4 years ago

Karsten,

thank you much. You are definitely on the list of experts now ;-)

Patrice
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Patrice Freymond created a new topic ' Object.Text - Calling on the linking experts !' in the forum. 4 years ago

Hi everyone,

Building some dynamic titling templates that ideally would have some parameters linked to make life easier (mask position according to length of text, etc... and I stumbled upon one parameter that I can't find any info about nor use in any way.

If you make a text layer the source of your link there is an Obect.Text parameter that could be used to control another layer's parameter. Anybody ever used this in the real world, and if so, how and what does it do ?

Peter ? Steve ? Alex ? Mark ?
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David Doyle thanks user 'Patrice Freymond' in the forum message ' MXF Viewer rather than convert'. 4 years ago
Patrice Freymond replied to the topic 'MXF Viewer rather than convert' in the forum. 4 years ago

Hi, I have the .pkg file of MXF4mac Player if you are interested.
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Hi Alexandre,

I don't have the link you are looking for but if you need any info re: FCPX in a broadcast environment don't hesitate to send me an email. I am working with the people at RTS in Geneva and was involved not only with moving form Avid to FCP7 to FCPX but also with the recent change of shared storage. You can reach me at patrice(at)edits.ch
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