The clip inspector shows the "Available Media Representation". Now if it says Original only and for some reason you want to edit with an intermediate or proxy substitute, you can transcode the clip.
Once a clip was added to he project (=timeline) and you had created Optimized Media before, you can no longer choose which one is currently displayed. You are not the only one who wonders why this is so.
My explanation may be wrong, so please correct me. ProRes will be the preview render codec anyway, no matter which was your camera codec or whether you had Optimized Media from the start. There are all flavors of ProRes available in custom project settings as well as Uncompressed. You can't render for preview in, say, AVCHD. So the differentiation between Original and Optimized is somewhat irrelevant there. I guess - but I may err - that FCP X plays back what can be decoded faster. This may have to do with your hardware (Quicksync or not) and how many effects you applied. I can't see much difference between Original and Optimized for hard edits, but once I add effects, I need to transcode to improve real time performance. This doesn't bother me much. For preview.
Does FCP X always use original media for export renders? Clearly not. Why then was there a danger to *forget* switching back from Proxy to Original/Optimized prior to export? Wouldn't make much sense to export to ProResHQ if the initial codec wasn't referred to any more, and, as you say, you have no option for anything else but ProRes422 for Optimized ...
Can someone confirm that FCP X automatically switches back from ProRes422 to Original?
There's no "magic sauce" involved here. What I suggest is to buy training and actually learn the application. If you don't have the budget, at least watch all of Ripple Training's videos on YouTube. Between those and the articles on here with Sam Mastman, Thomas Grove Carter and others, there's no reason why one doesn't know FCPX like the back of their hand. Just takes some time invested from you.
In my case I would say once there has been Optimized clips used, even if you delete then using the delete option, the clip has been altered, the only way I have found is to keep the clip on a thumb drive, remove the thumb drive once imported, and use the clip, if the clip undergoes proxy or optimized mode, it is no longer usable.
There is a serious issue with the Optimized/Original, they are not the same, and thus should not be, in fact original clips cannot play in proxy timelines, Apple has made a serious blunder!
It has nothing to do with understanding, sorry Dave, you are missing the point.
Apple has made a serious blunder in deciding what is best, and that is just wrong, you would not accept going to a restaurant and all they provide is salt.. NO PEPPER.. you would be confused and find the food less pleasant if you could not add your own pepper...
What Apple has decided is breaking the software, it is only making things worse, and to top it, since updating to 10.3.3 I have noticed artifacts not present in 10.3.2..
Prores is not right for everyone, it is a weak workaround, and I am quite surprised no one has mentioned this before.
You seem to be getting on an unjustified soapbox about this issue. Clearly, there's something that's not getting through to you. I've read your posts again and there seems to be a few things that are tripping you up and you're blaming this Original/Proxy toggle in the viewer.
Don't make Optimized Media or Proxy Media. Edit the original media and learn about the other settings and when to use them for next time.
The timeline will still render as ProRes (either automatically or when you tell it to) because the world has decided that ProRes is the best option. You do have control over what flavor your timeline is (default is ProRes 422), but you won't be able to render your timeline as AVCHD or other garbage.
I have to edit in proxy mode, the video is 6K in size, and impossible to play without converting to proxy, I have tried to leave the 7 second clip as original, and when the timeline is set to proxy, the 7second clip will not play, it will display the proxy missing message.
This is what I mean, this is a serious issue, I know how to edit, I passed the exam!!!
MsJustine wrote: Prores is not right for everyone, it is a weak workaround, and I am quite surprised no one has mentioned this before.
You are not forced to transcode to ProRes (other than, as I said, for preview rendering), you can uncheck create Optimized Media in the import window. You can also transcode to whatever you want before import (with 3d party software). ProRes is not for everyone? Well, it's your choice!
I bet if Adobe created their own optimized codec family or if Apple allowed ProRes to be encoded on Windows and be computed in 64bit, a lot less Macs would be sold.
Yes, you are right, I can change the media with 3rd party to anything, yet when I import it, Apple destroys it with the inability to use suitable codecs within FCPX.
That is my point, not what happens outside of the app, but what happens inside the app.
The concept is not hard, Apple should have more than 1 flavour of Prores, in fact more than just 1 thing, look I will agree I don't know everything, that is why I asked not to get into a pissing contest.
This is Easter, why not instead of fighting, make that call, it is skype after all, and it would maybe help me instead of all of us getting blisters from typing...
As I said, Apple has decided what is best, and that is not helpful any any way. You have missed my point.
Dave why don't you repost what you posted to me, instead of copy pasting, write it in your own words...
That might actually lead credibility to what you are saying.. Copy pasting proves you know how to copy and paste and does not prove you understand what you pasted as a link!
What? Larry Jordan has spelled out everything clearly with photos and details on all aspects here. I and others have tried to explain it in previous posts, but it seemed as though you needed an in-depth explanation of how it worked.
Perhaps FCPX isn't right for you. You keep getting upset at things we all agree work great compared to other NLE's. You may try Premiere or even Resolve? I have stayed with Apple BECAUSE of ProRes and I'm sure others have too. If you don't see the value there after reading those posts, then maybe your priorities are different and another NLE would be better.
No, I just pointed out that if he wants to come across as helpful, just copy pasting without added commentary is not helpful.
All I have done is point out a problem I have, that the solution as per Apple is a problem, the 1 only prores is not helpful, it is doing something really strange to my media, I love FCPX, I think it is the best out there, and I feel there is a problem.
What I am asking for is someone with a lot more experience to explain to me what is going on, how do I solve this problem, in the spirit of friendship, and to maybe one day maybe I will be able to get paid work...
I don't understand everything, and I have tried for months to find out why and what is going on with this footage, what is the best method to overcome a problem I have, sorry if I have offended, I never set out to do that, I have no one here to ask for guidance.
I see no problem with asking for help, and yes I would love for someone to take a look at my material and maybe suggest a way to get to where I need, we all love the software, and I hate not understanding why the video works in 1 mode and how to get it to work in all mides, ie proxy and optimized...
I will change the video, I have exported and maybe I am doing it wrong, I will accept that...