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New user question - Best Library/Events/Project structure for YouTube channel? 22 Dec 2018 22:40 #98275

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New guy here. I bought FCPX to edit videos for for a YouTube channel and I am looking for the best way to structure my Library/Event/Project order.

Would it be something like:

Youtube Channel Name (Library)
\_ Youtube Video Title 1 (Event)
..... \_ (what the heck would it put here for Project?)
\_ Youtube Video Title 2 (Event)
..... \_ (what the heck would it put here for Project?)
\_ Youtube Video Title 3 (Event)
..... \_ (what the heck would it put here for Project?)

Or should I make a separate Library for each video I make for YouTube?

I would also have the need to insert common elements such as intro/outro titles, lower thirds, etc.

Just looking for best practices that makes the most sense. Any advice is appreciated.
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New user question - Best Library/Events/Project structure for YouTube channel? 23 Dec 2018 14:13 #98277

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Use the structure you have, one Library, and Event for each individual video project. Plus use Keyword collections for things like footage from specific cameras, or of specific talents, etc, as needed.

Common elements you'd put in an Event called Stock Media or Common Elements or whatever you want to call it.

That's how we do episodic shows at our TV station. One Library for each season of a show, one Event for each episode.. All those Libraries on one Folder on the Hard Drive.
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New user question - Best Library/Events/Project structure for YouTube channel? 23 Dec 2018 15:55 #98278

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Terrific, thank you very much. I know there is no "wrong" way to do it, but I just wanted to take a logical approach.
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New user question - Best Library/Events/Project structure for YouTube channel? 24 Dec 2018 07:09 #98282

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I do an individual Library for each video. However what I do is create a -Template library (I create the name with a - so it's always at the top of the folder and easy to locate). In this Template Library are common elements like the intro, sound effects, other graphics elements, etc. Some of them are already on a Timeline so I don't have to do that each time. Then for each new video I DUPLICATE that Template (command + D in the Finder). Then I rename it and number it. Then I open that, name the Event and Project etc and then begin importing all of the new individual assets for that single video.

The reason I do it this way is because a single Library would get impossibly huge since each episode is close to half an hour with TONS of assets for each. Some episodes have Libraries as big as 600GB and that's after all render files and event-generated stuffs have been deleted after it's done.
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New user question - Best Library/Events/Project structure for YouTube channel? 24 Dec 2018 12:06 #98293

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We do this with many shows every day, and they do not get impossibly huge. Just saying...
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New user question - Best Library/Events/Project structure for YouTube channel? 24 Dec 2018 12:24 #98296

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JDebler wrote:
New guy here. I bought FCPX to edit videos for for a YouTube channel and I am looking for the best way to structure my Library/Event/Project order.... should I make a separate Library for each video I make for YouTube?...I would also have the need to insert common elements such as intro/outro titles, lower thirds, etc...Just looking for best practices that makes the most sense. Any advice is appreciated.

There is no single approach, no rigid recommend practice. It is important to grasp that FCPX is database-like, and you need to think in those terms. Don't think of hierarchical folders -- think of Google.

From a performance standpoint you could hypothetically put everything in one event and organize it with keywords. I'm not recommending this, but it's important to know it's not a limit. On a 2015 iMac I once used a single event containing 7,000 clips (160 hours) of mixed 1080p and 4k H264 material, totaling 5 terabytes, with media on a Thunderbolt 2 array. The 1080p content could be edited smoothly using camera-native H264. However the 4k material required transcoding to proxy for smooth performance.

In a sense, the event is simply a classification tag which could also be performed by a keyword or smart collection. As physically implemented, the event exists as a separate folder inside the library with the media content (or symlinks to that content) physically inside the folder. But that is an implementation detail. E.g, in GMail the folders aren't really folders but database tags which appear as folders. A future version of FCPX could change the internal implementation of events to database tags and you'd never know the difference.

Nonetheless Events can be useful. I mainly caution people against over-using events or thinking they are mandatory because they seem like the familiar bins from other editing programs. Events are simply one of several organizational tools in FCPX.

We now have smart collections and keyword collections which can span an entire library, so even if using multiple events it can all be searched. To make a library wide keyword collection, create a library smart collection, select the keywords you want and save that query.

Here are some general organizational tips:

(1) Before you import anything, make sure you have no duplicate filenames -- even if separate folders. Having globally unique media filenames will help you in the future. I append a unique serial number to ours using "A Better Finder Rename": www.publicspace.net/ABetterFinderRename/index.html

(2) If you have multiple cameras or recorders, before import place that media in unique folder names. E.g, JoeGH5, KevinA7R3, TomZoomF8. Then upon import use the FCPX preference "Assign Keywords from Folder". If you now or later end up having multiple cameras using the same codec with similar filename, this helps you tell them apart after import.

(3) Decide whether you will import using "leave files in place", or copy the media to the library.

(4) If you have any AVCHD media *never* copy the MTS files out of the bundle and import those. This can cause serious I/O performance problems. Either import from the AVCHD bundle and allow FCPX to re-wrap them or externally re-wrap with EditReady then import using "leave files in place": www.divergentmedia.com/editready

(5) Before you shoot anything *always* check the time of day clock on all cameras and recorders. If this is off it makes managing the content more difficult.

(6) Do not over-organize the material -- use FCPX features only where needed. E.g, if it's a wedding, why keyword the ceremony vs reception? They take place at different times and will always be chronologically separate.

(7) After import use FCPX range-based rejects to flag all useless or low-quality content. Then use the Viewer in "hide rejects" mode. This de-clutters the Event Browser.

(8. Ponder the fact that FCPX uses *range*-based (not just clip-based) keywording and rating. You can have multiple overlapping keyworded ranges.

(9) If you have multicam material, do not rate or keyword the parent or constituent clips. Those are not carried forward to the multicam. Rather create and sync the multicam clip, then reject the parent clips to avoid accidentally using them, then rate and keyword the MC clip itself while using the Angle Viewer.

(10) Before you create a multicam clip, label each batch of clips from each camera. This is facilitated if you previously imported this content using "Assign Keywords from Folder". Procedure: www.fcp.co/forum/4-final-cut-pro-x-fcpx/...udio-and-video#76086

(11) In general get used to working in the Event Browser and spending time rating, tagging material, not copying a bunch of stuff to a timeline and trying to organize it there. If you want small mini-timelines of clip sequences, you can create compound clips within the Event Browser. Unlike projects, those can be skimmed.

(12) Get used to marking ranges in the Event Browser and the various keyboard commands for navigating between them: support.apple.com/kb/PH12533?locale=en_US&viewlocale=en_US

In terms of media management, take time to study this. Ripple Training has a good tutorial on this, but other providers such as Lynda.com and MacProVideo.com also have some: www.rippletraining.com/products/final-cu...-final-cut-pro-10-4/

The basic paradigm for FCPX content discovery is more of a database query/response approach than squirreling away clips in a nested folder tree. Understanding this is key to leveraging FCPX and using it the way it was designed. Here is a video that explains one method ("One Smart Collection To Rule Them All"):

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New user question - Best Library/Events/Project structure for YouTube channel? 27 Dec 2018 21:29 #98325

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FCPX.guru wrote:
We do this with many shows every day, and they do not get impossibly huge. Just saying...

Well depending on how long your seasons are and what your assets are like, it may be different for you. 35 episodes would mean a single Library way over 10 TB for me (at the minimum). I need to split that up. For what I do, there is no advantage of keeping everything in a single library.
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New user question - Best Library/Events/Project structure for YouTube channel? 28 Dec 2018 02:47 #98330

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Yes, yours is probably bigger...
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New user question - Best Library/Events/Project structure for YouTube channel? 29 Dec 2018 01:40 #98346

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That's what she said. Or at least I wish it were!
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New user question - Best Library/Events/Project structure for YouTube channel? 29 Dec 2018 10:54 #98354

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Redifer wrote:
... For what I do, there is no advantage of keeping everything in a single library.

Good point. That is a key question people should be asking. Does keeping everything in one library provide an advantage? OTOH will breaking things up between libraries cause a disadvantage, now or in the future? Does spreading the content across multiple events within a library help me in some way? Will having everything in one event cause problems?

These are all related to how FCPX will later be used to query the data. The problem is people new to FCPX often make organizational decisions without having a clear idea of how FCPX rating, keywording, smart collections and queries work (or don't work).

As in your case, if you won't need to query the media as a whole, why cram it all into one library. If later an un-envisioned need arises, you can mount both libraries and copy clips between them. If a greater need arises, the two libraries can be merged into separate events in a single library.

In many cases FCPX will either use symlinks (for "in place" media") or hard links, provided all media is on the same disk volume. So it can actually be relatively efficient and fast.
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