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Star Wars 1980 21 Oct 2018 16:36 #97470

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Recent YouTube posting of BTS documentary on the making of Star Wars in 1980.
Find the techniques used worth a trip down memory lane and seeing all the special equipment and set pieces they built to be fun to watch. How different some of this same footage would be done today.

Enjoy, Greg
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Star Wars 1980 26 Oct 2018 09:16 #97538

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I love watching behind the scenes of how they did special effects before the days of hyper computing, when you needed crafts and skills and not just a wacom tablet and macbook...

When you watch films from the 1960's to the 1990's, they start to look dated as we are used to 64bit blender models and ILM magic, I have always wondered if Steven would do a remake of the "silver turd" in 2018 using a wacom tablet+blender instead of Bruce the turd...

For example here in Star Wars they used flesh and blood extras and yet in say Black Hawk Down, they used the same model hundreds of times, just manipulated the dimensions to make various extras in the scene where the bandits shoot up the supply truck. BlackHawk was about using technology, it was how they could manipulate live action and green screen in the computer to create a render scene.

If you think about it in a different way, with digital you have complete control over numbers, and really that is what film making is today, you could if you had the time create a movie completely using binary, after all each pixel is just 1 number that represents a color, what is an image on a computer screen other than just a spreadsheet of numbers that changes over time?

With digital all you are doing is math, changing a value over time, all we do when we edit is change values of each pixel over time, whereas in analogue film making, ie onto film you could not change the image, you could only add to the image by using plates, think cartoons in the 1940's, or Indiana Jones, that was shot with 30 or 40 plates, frame by frame, to build up the image.

Today it is just changing values in a "hidden" spreadsheet, is that better...well it takes away some of the skills and crafts, from 1 aspect this is good, it means digitally we can create scenes that simply could not be built for financial reasons, are we becoming too reliant on wacom tablets?

Do we want keyboard artists only in the next few years or will there still be films shot using old school set designers and set builders?
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Star Wars 1980 26 Oct 2018 12:03 #97539

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Tools are tools, doesn't matter. The person's skill and integrity using the tools is all that matters.

Star Wars used tools that did not exist a decade before that. And I remember at the time some folks presenting the same argument about the new technologies allowing too much fake, unnatural elements into film.

No, digital has no effect on the artistic skill of a filmmaker. It only allows more filmmakers to access the tools.

"The good old days" never existed...
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Star Wars 1980 26 Oct 2018 19:41 #97540

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If you look at it that way, Star Wars Episode 7 actually still used allot of human extras in costumes plus CGI. In a way, the Special Effects modeling turned digital.

Black Hawk Down still got its awards and I think nobody noticed what was CGI and wasn't. B)
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