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360 videos\footage to test FCPX 28 Mar 2018 09:21 #94870

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What's your experience editing 360 degrees videos?
I wanted to test my MacBook Pro before buying a camera, but I am not able to edit some videos I found online. I tried downloading an 8K video from Insta360's website. FCPX knows it's a 360 video, but all I can see it's a black image.
If I try to import 4K videos, they are spit in two (you can see the issue on the attached image)

I tried some footage directly from the cameras and finished vides and I haven't be lucky so far.

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All I want to do is to try my computer before buying a 3D camera.
Thank you for your support.



Edit: I am using FCPX 10.4 and MacOS Sierra
Last Edit: 28 Mar 2018 09:25 by AndyAndreas.
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360 videos\footage to test FCPX 13 Dec 2018 23:48 #98145

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You need to first decode/stitch with the Insta software.
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360 videos\footage to test FCPX 18 Dec 2018 23:08 #98212

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What's the codec on that 8K video? If it's something like Cineform, it needs to be transcoded to something like ProRes.

That 4k video, judging by the thumbnail, is a stereoscopic clip, with the left eye being on the top and the right eye being on the bottom. If its metadata flags aren't correct, you can select it and go into the inspector, click on the 'i' (info inspector), and make sure its 360 projection mode is 'equirectangular', and its Stereoscopic mode is 'over/under'.
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360 videos\footage to test FCPX 18 Dec 2018 23:13 #98213

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Also, you didn't say what the specs for your computer are. To properly use that 8k clip, you have to have a pretty powerful machine with enough video ram. We're talking top-end iMac or iMac Pro. It may work OK on the trashcan Mac Pro also, but you likely won't get full playback speed (depending on the codec). If it's ProRes, you'd also have to run it off the fast internal SSD or a very fast RAID drive array.
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360 videos\footage to test FCPX 19 Dec 2018 00:17 #98215

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I think there is a lot of misunderstanding about editing 360 video. and a lot of hype For example, I refused to bow to the marketing mavens and instead bought a souped up 2012 Mac Pro (something I can take apart and modify unlike the stuff you buy now and then throw away because its almost impossible to fix or update) My machine is lightning fast with its solid state drives and the fastest processor setup available for a Macro. It renders really fast and handles 8 K 360 video from an Insta360 Pro and the Insta 360 One X without hiccups once the mp4 is converted to Pro Res. I posted my question because I was having difficulty editing a video so that the viewing orientation was maintained properly in each clip. I have since learned that you have to follow Ripple Trainnin's tutorial series to the letter if you want success. I was trying to short cut some of the editing workflow! I am very happy with the result. You can do everything that Premier is claimed to do and more and you don't have to pay a monthly fee!

The Specs on my machine are as follows
12 core 2 x 3.46GHz Xeon Processors
32GB (8 x 4GB) 1333MHz Memory
GTX 980Ti 6GB card
1TB SSD - with AIC PCIe upgrade option
Three 2TB 7200rpm hard drives (installed in SATA bays 2-4; bay 1 open)
Apple RAID Card
SuperDrive
WiFi + Bluetooth
macOS 10.13 High Sierra
All for less than $3,000

I even edited off the raid drives and not the SSD
Here is my little movie that I made from the One X after importing its stitched mp4 video.
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360 videos\footage to test FCPX 19 Dec 2018 02:45 #98218

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Well like I said, it does depend on the codec/drive speed/GPU mostly whether you get good playback. A GTX 980Ti is still a decent card and has enough VRAM to handle those clips. I was talking along the lines of the current mac lineup and what they can handle.

4k ProRes is fine on most RAIDs, but 4k stereoscopic which is probably what that over/under stacked clip is around ~6k of bandwidth. A lot of RAIDs will choke on that, regardless of GPU, so you have to make sure you have a fast enough drive. As far as I know, the insta360 pro will shoot H.264 or H.265, so even at 8k it won't push your disk drive. However, it will push the GPU/CPU quite a bit.
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360 videos\footage to test FCPX 19 Dec 2018 14:00 #98223

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Thanks for your response....with that GTX card, do you know whether it works with the new operating system Mojavi...I have been careful not to upgrade because there seems no upgrade available yet for the video card
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