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"Huge advantage" ? 30 Jun 2017 00:18 #89110

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What The Hell ?

"I’ll end with this: when it comes to learning the mechanics of the software tool, the aspiring editor who learns the ins and outs of Media Composer | First and becomes an expert on all the buttons, knobs, switches and settings will have a huge advantage over Adobe Premiere Pro or Final Cut Pro X experts when they go for that job assisting or editing on that big Hollywood tv show."

Scott Simmons, here :
www.provideocoalition.com/media-composer...ter-all-these-years/

And there are many more "bonuses" like that in this piece.

Seems like Masochism is still a big factor of "professionalism" in thie workd of NLEs.
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"Huge advantage" ? 30 Jun 2017 02:51 #89111

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Less than a quarter of a percent of the folks making a living editing work on Hollywood features. I couldn't care less about Hollywood feature editing. What's his point?
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"Huge advantage" ? 30 Jun 2017 07:41 #89114

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This reminds me of an experience we had while I was visiting a major film school in Barcelona to write this article for fcp.co: www.fcp.co/final-cut-pro/articles/1957-c...with-final-cut-pro-x

I needed some pictures of an FCP X workstation with an editor, so we asked one of the students to open her project that was stored on their central storage, and to work on it. She had last worked on her project in FCP X 10.2.3, and in the meantime all workstations had been updated to 10.3.

So she launched her project and she got a message that it would have to be updated to 10.3. She did not blink an eye, she did not ask any questions, she just pressed the update button and a few seconds later her project opened in the new 10.3 interface. She looked at it and the only thing she said was: oh, they have moved some buttons. Then she continued working on her project, fast and comfortably, as if the interface had never changed.

Those are the kind of editors I want to work with. Because they are not limited by mechanics. They don't even care about what the software they work on is called. The only thing that interests them is telling their stories. And that's the point that Scott, who is a great guy BTW, seems to be missing in his final comment: being an expert on all the buttons, knobs, switches and settings of a particular NLE still does not make you an editor.

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"Huge advantage" ? 30 Jun 2017 08:31 #89117

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He has NO point, apart from the fact that he is hitting the drums for AVID to get "young & fresh blood".

I don't want to be disrespectful, but Simmons seems to be somewhat delusional in his statements, like here :


What is missing?
Very little. Very very little. If you were expecting a really dumbed-down version of Media Composer you’ll be disappointed as dumbed-down it is not. It seems to limit exporting and output to 720 which I think is a mistake. I mean does Avid really think they’ll sell that many less full Media Composer licenses if they let MC | First export a 1080 H264? I doubt it.



Over a decade ago, AVID already tried the "cheap" route, with a DV only, not hardware locked Windows version called AVID XpressDV. That didn't survive the renewal of the NLE market, even less so with FCP gaining more acceptance.

I was glad to have left early on the rotten world of Windows and the painful experience with Newscutter and early MC’s, switching to a promising FCP, even if that meant to experience some work in progress. But as an editing cameraman, I hated to loose so much time resolving problems with the OS, the hardware config and the NLE themselves. Exclusive editors may have more time for that kind of treat.

If young editors and those who still are in a chase to get a piece of the cake get easily lured by this free offer, they are in for a steep learning curve and a lot of frustration whenever they chose to take the bait.

Waving a flag full of professional promises won’t make things easier.

But … the first shot is always free … could become the new AVID baseline.
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"Huge advantage" ? 30 Jun 2017 10:46 #89121

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FCPX.guru wrote:
...It will only export 720p, but that provides yet another readily available option for aspiring editors.

Although the above Pro Video Coalition says it won't export in 1080 and posted screen caps to prove this, the Avid web site says it will export in 1080i and 1080p. They have have updated the product after his review:

www.avid.com/media-composer-first/comparison#Export

I can't tell from Avid's spec sheet whether Media Composer First supports proxy mode editing like the regular version.
Last Edit: 30 Jun 2017 15:19 by joema.
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"Huge advantage" ? 30 Jun 2017 20:39 #89138

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Where did I write that?

I said this;
“Hey, get Avid Free! And YOU can edit JUST LIKE less than 1% of the market, too!”
Last Edit: 30 Jun 2017 20:40 by FCPX.guru.
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